Hello :)

[birdie]

Hello everyone,

The main reason for my visit here is because I was thinking that maybe psychedelics can help me increase my normal and lucid dream count.

I've smoked cannabis, ate dried shrooms and took xtc before, but only a few times. I've felt anxiety and paranoia with cannabis and had one really bad trip with shrooms. After taking shrooms I've dreamt more and they were more vivid for at least 9 months.
Even though I am still scared by those experiences, I'd like to try it again but want to start with something easy but don't know yet what exactly, I was thinking maybe drink some salvia leaf tea?

Also, I take anti depressants but I don't feel depressed anymore. The name is Mirtazapine. Is it safe to use psychedelics while also taking these?

 

[spice]

Common side effects of mirtazapine: dizziness, blurred vision, sedation, somnolence, malaise/lassitude, increased appetite and subsequent weight gain, dry mouth, constipation, enhanced libido and sexual function, and vivid, bizarre, lucid dreams or nightmares.

Rarer side effects: agitation/restlessness, irritability, aggression, apathy and/or anhedonia (i.e., inability to experience pleasurable emotions), excessive mellowness or calmness, difficulty swallowing, shallow breathing, decreased body temperature, miosis, nocturnal emissions, spontaneous orgasm, loss of balance, and restless legs syndrome. Mirtazapine has also occasionally been reported to cause mild hallucinogenic effects in some patients, including mental imagery, auditory and visual hallucinations. Most of these side effects are generally mild and become less prominent over time

Very rare, potentially serious adverse reactions may include allergic reaction, edema, fainting, seizures, bone marrow suppression, myelodysplasia, and agranulocytosis


I'd rather be depressed

 

[spice]

most people should NOT allow the pharmaceutical lobby to determine what chemicals they consume.


The Pharmaceutical industry makes $$$ by treating symptoms, not curing disease



99%+++++ of people exhibiting symptoms of depression aren't depressed, they're alive

 

[birdie]

I don't have any of those side effects. Just the first 2 days when you start taking them, but I'm on them for almost a year now and I don't feel any different.

Is anyone experienced with anti depressants and mild psychedelics?

 

[ararat]

well, the only few things that I know is that antidepressants work on serotonin receptors, and so do psychedelics. I wouldn't fuck around and take both.

 

[birdie]

alright, thank you for your advice bananapancake

 

[ophiuchus]

be careful with anti-depressants. you should know that "The Placebo Effect" is a much repressed result that the pharmaceutical company does not want you to know about. they spend more cash than is easily expressible to cover up these clinical trial results, mainly so that you may keep paying your medical bills and not know of an alternative without seeking it yourself.

i've taken both anti depressants as well as psychedelics and i can't tell which you should do and which you should not, but if you do wish to explore, it would be wise to isolate the substance you are taking, so that you may determine more precisely where any effects that you experience may be coming from. in this sense, i'd advise one to use caution in quitting an anti-depressant. doing it cold-turkey can have more pronounced negative effects to your health than if you took some time and weaned yourself off of it. i would say a week or more would be an appropriate timespan, depending on how long you've been taking them.

good luck and take care.

 

[ophiuchus]

another thing to keep in mind is that if you have had negative experiences with other psychedelics, then you will also be prone to having them with salvia. and the thing about salvia is that it is pound for pound the most psychoactive hallucinogen that man has discovered. another thing is that it is not a psychedelic tryptamine, so the effects are not like classical psychedelics. most people say that salvia is a whole new level of intensity. even though the effects are shorter, i would have to agree. if i were doing this (by not smoking it) i would also use "the quid method" if i were you. you should look into it. it will give you better and more controllable results.

 

[birdie]

Thank you Allusion

I think you are right, if I want to start experimenting again I need to isolate the substance. I know that if I quite taking the anti depressants I should take at least a week for it. Maybe in the near future, but I will read into psychedelics more to find more confidence and to have a better controllable result.

Thanks

 

[ophiuchus]

:wink: everyone has a right to be informed.

 

[reDEEMed]

most people should NOT allow the pharmaceutical lobby to determine what chemicals they consume.


The Pharmaceutical industry makes $$$ by treating symptoms, not curing disease



99%+++++ of people exhibiting symptoms of depression aren't depressed, they're alive

I doubt I will ever understand why otherwise smart people can't seem to get this. Drug companies need sick people, not cured people. And if your cure for X induces side effects Y and Z, all the better, that just means more drugs! Drug companies love the idea of a middle aged person who must take 20-30 pills a day with most of those pills being to offset the 'unwanted' effects of the pill before it. When my exwife was diagnosed with Lupus they gave her so many different pills to take it was just incredible. Soon after she started taking them, about a week or two, she was markedly different. Always tired and you could tell she was sick. Before that the only symptoms she had were very frequent headaches, not the melange of shit she had going on after she started 'treatment'.

She was not a recreational drug user at all and didn't smoke weed. I talked to her and reasoned with her and she gave weed a shot. After putting every strain I ran across on her, we finally found that lemon honza kush was the perfect strain for her. Her headaches disappeared and she didn't need the medicine again. Not to say that her lupus was gone, but it didnt rule her anymore, her pain was gone. My point being, drug companies suck.

OP, I encourage you to experiment with your consciousness. It's yours, learn it and make it better by fucking with it