phalaris
Holofractale de l'hypervérité
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- 7/5/05
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spice mentioned our mammalian urge to fight for territory as an obstacle for space colonization.
I think so too, but maybe is it an obstacle that can be tacled ?
what options do we have to overcome our selfdestructive behavour ?
To begin answering that, we should try to know what the largest group of people can be in a certain geograpic area without wars. (density & group size).
within a group of people ,who feel they belong to the same culture, it is less likely to come to war. Humans are great at using ruthless violence to achieve goals, but that suddenly changes if the victims become aquintences. Even warlords like bush and comrades would think twice to invade Boston. This Boston just happens to be located somewhere outside the USA and is named differently.
The size of a culture is eventually determined by the distance a human can travel with a certain amount of effort. Traveling a few days in the ancient times I count as the same as traveling, say, 8 hours nowdays.
The internet has decoupled information exchange and traveling in person for the first time in the history of humankind.
But great for many things as the internet may be, meeting in person with friends/others is as important as ever. This means the information radius has become global, but the personal/social radius remains limited to a few hundred kilometers. Cultures can span several social radii, but there is a limit. (factor of 30 ?)
Making traveling by plane affordable for the majoraty of people would increace social radii, and so support a larger culture radius.
When that culture radius enveloppes the planet, we can colonize into space, without wars hopefully.
...
just some thoughts.
ps, I realLy would like to be able to travel to Ma-Huang city and viSit a frienDs place for a cup of thea, and be back for work the next day.
I think so too, but maybe is it an obstacle that can be tacled ?
what options do we have to overcome our selfdestructive behavour ?
To begin answering that, we should try to know what the largest group of people can be in a certain geograpic area without wars. (density & group size).
within a group of people ,who feel they belong to the same culture, it is less likely to come to war. Humans are great at using ruthless violence to achieve goals, but that suddenly changes if the victims become aquintences. Even warlords like bush and comrades would think twice to invade Boston. This Boston just happens to be located somewhere outside the USA and is named differently.
The size of a culture is eventually determined by the distance a human can travel with a certain amount of effort. Traveling a few days in the ancient times I count as the same as traveling, say, 8 hours nowdays.
The internet has decoupled information exchange and traveling in person for the first time in the history of humankind.
But great for many things as the internet may be, meeting in person with friends/others is as important as ever. This means the information radius has become global, but the personal/social radius remains limited to a few hundred kilometers. Cultures can span several social radii, but there is a limit. (factor of 30 ?)
Making traveling by plane affordable for the majoraty of people would increace social radii, and so support a larger culture radius.
When that culture radius enveloppes the planet, we can colonize into space, without wars hopefully.
...
just some thoughts.
ps, I realLy would like to be able to travel to Ma-Huang city and viSit a frienDs place for a cup of thea, and be back for work the next day.