freezing mescaline??

[oneiam4]

Hello people, I'm new here. I have a question which I would really appreciate help answering.
Is it okay to thaw out mescaline which has been in the freezer, and then to refreeze it again?? I know this sounds silly but I have to transport the stuff and then wait a few days before I can take it, so....
Alternatively, could I leave it for a few days after it's thawed out before taking it? Would it lose its potency?

Thanks

 

[Brugmansia]

What I can tell you is that I had kept dried San Pedro material for about 2 months at room temprature and after I kept it in the freezer for another 4 months before I ate it and it still gave me a powerful trip.

If you're talking about the synthetic or extracted form I wouldn't know. Perhaps Spice knows about the mescaline molecule?

 

[ophiuchus]

i've heard that refrigeration temperatures are best for storing anything, not freezing temps, and on a random note, also heard the same thing about storing coffee beans at my work... freezing (im assuming) damages or breaks down the molecules somehow, expanding and contracting perhaps? either way, you'll be fine doing what you talked about, but keep in mind that colder isn't always better

 

[Brugmansia]

My freezing temp is -4 degrees celsius.

Eating frozen dried mushrooms or cactus material always gave me an heavier trip than any fresh material. Most likely because the water is out of it which makes the active ingredients a bit more concentrated in the blood.

Not mention the shrink in volume, especially cactus material gets much more compact.

 

[ophiuchus]

makes sense brug, but this kids gotta thaw his at some point, then re freeze... it would reabsorb some volume of liquid from the crystals on the outside, and depending on how clean your freezer is (and how often do you clean your freezer, really?) , i can only speculate on what can happen, possibly mold if care is not taken.. of course if you're air tight, then you wont get any molds, but your going to re-absorb all of the frost crystals, and have soggy shit. anybody know of a bypass? silica crystal packets in the bag of goodies perhaps?

no doubt the mushrooms will work any way you do it... but if integrity of material, or potency is of the question, then i dont know what your time frame looks like for optimal results

 

[ophiuchus]

i mean put it in a cooler if you are so inclined, organ donor style. that's a tried and true, then you don't even have to worry about thawing as long as you got ice in there, water will start to become your enemy though.. and also the fact that theres a cooler anywhere in a car will have la policia barking so keep that in mind too... idk, just brainstorming out loud. feel free to join in you guys, i know im not THE smartest one here...

 

[oneiam4]

thanks guys for all your comments!
brugs comment puts my mind at ease a bit. but yeah, i would've thought freezing it would do some damage - im definitely no chemistry buff tho - it's just that my guy told me it was okay.
a cooler is a good idea, too. i did think of that later.
well, i don't know anymore if i want to do it because im going to have to hitch six hours up the coast to reach my mate just to partake, and then the whole thawing and waiting or refreezing business, seems like a mission ! is it worth it?
but then im worried about leaving it in the freezer for too long...
thanks again

 

[Jahvisions]

You are confusing two things. If you freeze things cells form plants can break but crystals won't.

The colder, the slower molecules "move", the slower reaction rates, so better conservation. Just keep it airtight.

 

[ophiuchus]

jah, anytime i referred to "crystals" in my last post i was talking about "ice crystals", not chemical compound... as i said before, im no chem expert, however, i should know what freezer burn is