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bonzo

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i've heard that you can smoke psilocin/psilocybin as free-base. it should give an experience with DMT-like visuals but without the DMT-scaryness, lasting at least a whole day (!)instead of the common 4-6 hours, and much stronger than normally consumed mushrooms.
here's how to extract the crystals :
THE EXTRACTION TEKS
i surely will try it!
 
looks interesting!
never heard of it.
has somebody tried it?
looks very easy to produce.
too good to be true?
if not, looks like my cup of tea.
 
cause i hate medic monopoly, nature is the best pharmacie
 
Nice work Bonzo! I´m going to give it a try! /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Next week I will be showing my results! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Seems very very interesting!!!
It lasts a hole day??? /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Has anybody gave it a try yet?
 
I´m giving it a try tomorrow!
We will see! /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
I don't know.. LorpasPT let me know how it turns out.

I've tried it before and got no results. It was a few years ago. Who knows maybe I did something wrong... /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
I have a dought...
If you eat the psylocibin to much, with a lither or other kind of fire, will it burn?
From what I read, you cant eat it to much, because it burns in a small temperature...
 
that is very interesting.

i am gonna do some researchs on google.

before i just write this:

when you smoke nicotine, it boils, same for canabis, crack, speed, dmt, salvia ...

the problem is:
at what temperature does the molecule burns, and what temperature does the molecule boil.

if it burns before boiling, its done, u cannot smoke it (it wont go in your brain! only byproducts like co2, co, cl2, n2, no, no2, h2o, nh3, hcn...)

what i know:
pcp (phencyclidine, 1-phenyl-cyclohexylpiperidine) freebase boils at 120°C
the hydrochloride salt of pcp boils at 235°C!!!

same for all the amines:
the freebase boils at low temperatures, and the hydrochloride salt boils at higher temperatures.

so one point is: when you smoke psilocibin, is it the freebase ?

same for cocaine.
cocaine is sold as the hydrochloride salt.
to make crack (smokeable cocaine): ammonia reacts with hydrochloride in the cocaine,
nh3 + hcl --> nh4cl
and you get the freebase (the hydrochloride salt of cocaine in unsmokeable, cause it burns before it boils).


see ya


(ups i write something more:)
YOu cannot use NaOH to make crack from cocaine, cause naoh is a strong base, and strong bases reacts with amides to give carboxilic acid salt and amine:
R-CO-NH2 + NaOH --> R-CO-O-Na + NH3

ammonia is not a strong base, it is a weak base, as sodium bicarbonate (or hydrogenocarbonate (it is the same) or NaHCO3).

to make psilocibin freebase from psilocibin hydrochloride: just add some ammonia, and let it (make it boiling or not) evaporate.

lol dude: you dont eat the psilocibin, you HEAT it!!!
you eat some eggs, or some bread!
or you eat some mushrooms...
 
i dunno, no time to try it now, but i will experimente in the future.
i've read in a paper by the fda (?) u can even snort it or inject it. not that i will try this, i hate needles.
 
Hehe, well, sometimes the language is tricky. Thanks, now I know a little more about it!
Now who will try it?? I cant... I dont have shrooms at the moment, and I am not a chemistry kind of guy...
 
heh, i don't have any either. i ate them all last summer /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
and i'm broke, and have no girl, and have no life, and have no nothing,... /forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif but hey, i just found some ayahuasca & salvia in the closet, /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gifi will try the psilobase somewhere in spring.
 
Well, better things will happen to you this year /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Sadly, azarius does not sell girls. They're my favourite drug though... but they're also the most expensive and most dangerous drug /forum/images/graemlins/lolwsign.gif
 
That´s for sure!

I have some P. cubensis dried and prepared to meet ethanol!
And I´m working in some Koh Samui now!
/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Sometimes girls just dont give you that kick... eheheh
Must be from a nice crop!
But I'm with you on that... girls are the best drug for sure... and hopefully they thing guys are the best drug also... although I always loved those guys who dont have any problems with their own sex /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I think I'm almost ready to start producing shrooms in my house... one of these days I will need a lot of help, because I want to start with cobensis but after the first sucessfull crop I will aim higher! What do you recomend after cubensis?
 
copelandia

i need someone who learns me how to grow hawaians psilo
!!!
 
Man copelandia isn´t too much difficult to grow!
I can give u some good hints! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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