Found: the brain’s centre of wisdom

[Forkbender]

Found: the brain’s centre of wisdom

Scientists have identified the seat of human wisdom by pinpointing parts of the brain that guide us when we face difficult moral dilemmas.

Sophisticated brain scanning techniques have found that humans respond by activating areas associated with the primitive emotions of sex, fear and anger as well as our capability for abstract thought.

The findings, to be published in the Archives of General Psychiatry, represent a significant incursion into territory once regarded as the domain of religion and philosophy.

Dilip Jeste, professor of psychiatry and neuroscience at the University of California in San Diego, said: “Our research suggests there may be a basis in neurobiology for wisdom’s most universal traits.

 

[restin]

interesting but foolish.

 

[forgetoz]

Yeah, although it is an interesting finding, this kind of titles are ridiculous.

 

[magickmumu]

Brain scanning studies into disorders such as obesity and gambling have taken this further, suggesting society could be wrong to blame people suffering from such afflictions. Their brains are wired in such a way that it is much harder to exercise wisdom or self-control.


Why are people brains wired like a particular way?

 

[Forkbender]

Could you guys be more specific?

 

[restin]

(fucking internet died and killed my post )

okay-

A note is being written on a piece of paper. What writes the note, the pen or the hand?

 

[GOD]

Makeing desisions and wisdom are three different things . Please show me wise people and then explain why the planet is in such a shit state ?

 

[Forkbender]

A note is being written on a piece of paper. What writes the note, the pen or the hand?

the paper, obviously.

I still don't get your point...

 

[restin]

A scientist observes as a note is written. He also observes that a pen is writing the note and sees the correlation - "aha", he says and concludes that pens write letters. What he doesn't see is, that there is something different that leads the hand.

That's my "theory", probably stupid shit but that's what I concluded...

without the metaphor :arrow:

I believe that the brain is only a tool that is used by the mind to evolve, to exist, to...centralize. Because you see, our body is only functional, it has absolutely no other purpose than to function. It only has a self-purpose. Tell me if you disagree up to this point.

If you come to this point there are two conclusions to be made :arrow: Either there is only functionality, the "absurd", or rather Existence only. There is nothing behind nature but self-purpose to survive and exist.

The second one is that there is a "force" behind this functionality that drives it and uses it for its purpose. Call it God, the Mind, as you wish. And that's what I believe it is, the hand that leads the pen to write.

If you don't understand it, ask, or rather think of it, it makes sense but it doesn't mean it is right (at all). I am curious about what you think...

 

[GOD]

"That's my "theory", probably stupid shit but that's what I concluded... "

No comment.......

"Because you see, our body is only functional, it has absolutely no other purpose than to function. "

Its just a carryer transportig our senses and sex organs around , and an instrument for spreading fertilizer by shiting and pissing behind trees and bushes .

"There is nothing behind nature but self-purpose to survive and exist. "

What about fun and cureing boredom . Experience .

 

[restin]

What about fun and cureing boredom . Experience .

There wouldn't be boredom if there wasn't no life.

Fun...well, then it has just the purpose not to suicide and stop life :arrow: it leads to the same.

Experience's the only thing that stays but it doesn't matter in the end anyway.

Its just a carryer transportig our senses and sex organs around , and an instrument for spreading fertilizer by shiting and pissing behind trees and bushes .

So the only thing that differs us from Mars is that we've god shit lying around?

 

[Forkbender]

I think you are making an assumption that can be questioned.

You seem to imply that 'wisdom' is of the mind, not of the brain. But without hampering your idea about mind/body, this can be corroborated with the posted article when you say that certain physical states of the brain (what they call the wiring) channel wisdom better than others and that it relies on how good the connection is between the basic emotions and rational thinking (maybe between both halves of the brain :idea: ). I would explain what they say in the article in this way. I would agree that equating wisdom with this particular connection is foolish, but I don't think the scientists have done that and it is due to the journalist who wrote it down.

On the other hand, I do think that science does rely on physicalism, because we cannot explain things like this with God/Mind/etc. Rather, they are trying to explain wisdom, consciousness, love, etc. by looking at what is happening in the body when such phenomena occur, thereby furthering our knowledge of the intimate relation of mind and matter. By restricting itself to the physical dimension, it can ultimately understand itself when it notices the abyss on the other side of knowledge, when it sees that the regression is infinite.

Of course, knowledge like this has a high potential for abuse, which makes it all the more interesting, and I think we will see an even further politization of science in the near future.

 

[GOD]

Are you sure that the progression is universe , life , consciousness , boredom , fun ?

Go to mars and see . Strangely enough if there is / was life on mars then a lot of the planet must be covered in shit ( thats why you never see spacemen / aliens with sandals on...........) . Most of the reliable information that points to life on mars comes from methane gas emisions / expulsion = what life forms excrete / cause with their excretion .

 

[restin]

On the other hand, I do think that science does rely on physicalism, because we cannot explain things like this with God/Mind/etc. Rather, they are trying to explain wisdom, consciousness, love, etc. by looking at what is happening in the body when such phenomena occur, thereby furthering our knowledge of the intimate relation of mind and matter. By restricting itself to the physical dimension, it can ultimately understand itself when it notices the abyss on the other side of knowledge, when it sees that the regression is infinite.

I did not question that, of course I am thankful for scientific discoveries in medicine, neurology etc. I just remember someone saying "well, now the scientists proved that the mind does not exist" saying that everything is pure chemistry - a part that I am questioning. And yeah, I went quite off-topic but that's what I usually do

Fun is decadent, GOD. Uuuh,yeah,Mars was a bad example, why not taking Mercury?

 

[Forkbender]

You didn't go offtopic, you started a new idea. No need to be humble.

 

[restin]

You know, on my last mushroom trip I came to the exactly same conclusion as GOD did...It is funny though that cannabis taught me a completely different lesson...I am still learning I guess.

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

A note is being written on a piece of paper. What writes the note, the pen or the hand?

Well, none of the both.
(I know discussion is already further, BUT...)
Most people think it's consciousness writing the note.
But scientist measured a brain activity even before you are consciously making the choice of writing the note,
so there must be more to this then known to humanity.
This also pulls consciousness into another perspective (but that's another topic )

 

[GOD]

Its not off topic as far as i`m concerned . But then again maybe we should split the topic and put you in a thread on your own in quarantine.........

There was a program on TV a few weeks ago where they said that the brain had been aware of something , a desision to make , and had made it before we are consciously aware of the event and the paosible choices and had made the choice . This coupled with the fact / claim that our brain lives in a world 2/10s of a second behind what happens = it takes 2/10s of a second to be aware of things happening...... but our brain compensates and what we think we think and see is in sync with whats happening . For example we see a fist comeing towards us and can compensate for the 2/10s of a second delay and get out of the way before we get hit .

 

[Jamapricotica]

This post has been edited by me, Jamapricotica, for the simple reason that I am attempting to cleanup and/or improve my presence on this forum.

Sorry for any inconveniences this may cause.

 

[IJesusChrist]

yor al dum.