Forget what the bleep, this is THE Secret (the suite)

[Psychoid]

Hi everyone!

I wanted to post this in the original thread:
http://www.psychonaut.com/index.php?opt ... ep&lang=fr
but it was more than 150 years old...

I first reacted to the video when I saw it, the day this was posted here. There was a time where I consciously tried to apply what's said in the video, a 3-4 months period where I wasn't really thinking about it but was still unconsciously making efforts to stay positive and all (but I think MDMA played a role in this constant smile on my face all day long, my first trips had long and very enjoyable afterglows ), and then after for some reason I decided it was bullshit. At least 8 months have passed since then, and I think I can make some conclusion.

Not all that is said in this video. The law of attraction is true in a certain way.
Here's my theory:

Everyone tends to follow his instincts as long as there is no reason for not doing so. When we are in a positive mindstate, our mind is more sensible to positive vibes, and when we are in a negative mindstate, our mind is more sensible to... positive vibes (naaah lol just juking it's negative). Or maybe there is just no negative vibe and when you're negative you're reflecting the positive vibe(I'm sure vibe is not the right word for what I wanna say, I just can't remember, I'm actually pretty stoned...)? And so lets say you are a young student looking for a job, going from place to place to give C.V.'s. There can be someone at the same moment who is in need to hire someone fast. He is thinking about it, and that sends some signals (BTW I'm pretty sure that this signals and vibes things don't happen in the material world). Then either:
1) If you are in a positive mood, you will be more prone to receive the signal
2) If you are in a negative mood, you either won't receive the signal or ignore it
3) A combination of 1) and 2)
And there is also the possibility that being negative attracts bad signals.

Now, what do those signals do? They guide our instinct. So basically that would mean that when you feel good and are in a positive mindstate, following your instincts will guide you to "luck", and when you feel bad and are in a negative mindstate you better not follow your instincts or you might be "unlucky"

Please share your thoughts!

 

[Guest]

In my opinion, your point (which is logic) is correct, the movie is complete bullshit.

 

[????????]

I do not think that having "a positive mind" will magically yield better outcomes in stuff you do because things just don't work like that... BUT if we're talking about interpersonal scenarios the it DOES matter .. but this is no "secret" because no one likes bitter people!

 

[buffachino]

This is an example of considering only what you want to see, rather than what’s really there.
A pretty deep seeded ego game I must say.

For instance, when you search for a lost item and overlook it, simply because you have a predetermined image of what you’re looking for, that doesn’t immediately equal the state of the item. When you look again, it was in the most obvious place imaginable.

 

[sopor]

In my opinion, your point (which is logic) is correct, the movie is complete bullshit.

agree

law of attraction is just magick stripped to the bone. i wold rather call it the power of intent.
the way this movie tells it is just... moronic. but it seems to be very popular among teenage girls. man, i get sooo anoyed every time somebody starts a conversation about the secret. go and read jung, spare, crowley or sth.
it is nice to see that more and more people are trying to think pink, but come on, this movie is just so horrible.

 

[druglessdouglas]

yes, intent.

 

[ZOF]

I think it does all works togheter... Please, before you ignore these things, learn some more about QUANTUM PHYSICS... It's probably the only scientific proof of us (humans) having a spirit and the explanation of life/choices. Particles react with each other, in perticular ways. Just watch What the Bleep do we know and watch Down The Rabbit Hole too, you'll see what i mean (and what probably is correct).

 

[magickmumu]

If you want to learn about quantum physics I recommend reading : The Dancing Wu Li Masters By Gary Zukav.
I have seen What The Bleep and didn't like it. There's a lot of quasi spiritual stuff in the movie which I don't like.

I think that what happens is what happens. Your reaction to it, is what makes the difference.

 

[mountain-girl]

heh, well i never saw "the secret" it looked kidna not worth my time, i have read the dancing wu li masters and loved that, but i dont think that the power of positive thinking can just be dismissed as bullshit, reality is filtered through perception-the color of your glasses makes a difference=power of positive thinking, and you surround yourself with a vibe that you emmit to your surroundings, therefore it is reflected back at you, so yeah i beleive in that power of positive thinking completely, but not in a codified book/movie whatever, its like spirituality light, i mean, whatever works for you i guess :wink:

 

[????????]

it's like a poor's man buddhism

 

[HeartCore]

removed the troll food

 

[Forkbender]

It's probably the only scientific proof of us (humans) having a spirit and the explanation of life/choices.

That's not true. QM doesn't prove anything about some spirit.

OT: The secret is not really a secret, now is it? It is really basic. What most people don't see is that when they think of something they want, they also think of something they don't want. If you look for ego-masturbation, you will probably get what you deserve.

 

[druglessdouglas]

the real secret is there is no secret. dont tell any one

 

[Forkbender]

^exactly. It is only a secret because people keep these insights at bay. It is not because someone doesn't want to tell.

 

[GOD]

I saw a documentary where they interviewed some of the people who were in "what the bleep" and they were angry that they had been taken out of context and that the film was bullshit .

 

[magickmumu]

The secret is a hype, just like The Celestine Prophecy was.
When the hype is over (and Oprah introduces a new book). The secret will be put in the trash where it belongs.

 

[GOD]

Like 2012 , time wank dildo , the machine elves , dumbocracy , cackpistolism ...........

 

[st.bot.32]

I do not think that having "a positive mind" will magically yield better outcomes in stuff you do because things just don't work like that... BUT if we're talking about interpersonal scenarios the it DOES matter .. but this is no "secret" because no one likes bitter people!

Yeah, positive thinking definitely works in social scenarios, that is why good sales people are so damn productive. I worked at a telesales (ugh) outfit one summer when I had no money.. the positive happy guy was making 5-10x more sales than I was. His approach, demeanor, way he handled people. That wasn't to say he didn't hate his job, he had been there 10 years and quit while I was there, saying he was just tired of it. Which surprised me, as his exterior was so positive. Then it struck me that his positive exterior was just that--a learned behavior that allowed him to survive in his job for so long.

Obviously to a certain degree as well positive thinking will affect the outcome of your endeavors. If you are negative from the start it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you will eventually show your negativity.

Beyond certain limited scenarios I think however it is the ultimate height of human arrogance and pretentiousness to believe we can change and shape objective reality/the universe to our whims. The universe is far grander and far more complex than we imagine, full of deep connections we are only barely beginning to grasp (the complexity of the ecosystem just for starters). Change one thread to make the universe better for you, you affect someone or something else inevitably in the process. Such should have been the lesson of the disastrous era known as the 20th century and the social/environmental fallout we are only starting to experience.

Let's say for the sake of argument the secret is utterly effective. Can the secret be used only for the good of humans or for evil? If so, who or what force determines what is good, and what is evil? What if something appears to have an immediate good effect, but has disastrous effects down the road? and so on. etc.

 

[magickmumu]

I think the secret and what the bleep are trash. The only good thing about it is that it opens up the minds of the masses.


Lucky for us we have our Christian brothers to protect us against Oprah and her occult friends.
Christians are confused.

 

[random]

Last time I seen oprah was in southpark with her asshole talking to her pussy, and suddenly I think the asshole dies or something, cant recall right now.
Or some actor (that I don't remember who) acting silly in her show.

So my image of her was that she, is a Big Bullshit.

Well, after seeing that movie (posted by magickmumu) I was kind of surprised with what she said.

Was she doing all that bullshit show and all that shit to draw atention of people, so now she can tell what she "really" thinks? Or is this another bullshit?

I don't know. But the idea that she was selling her ass to win the people atention, so she, now, could send some fruitful message and try to 'open the eyes' of those empty conservatives christians, doesn't sound that bad. Though, I think she is a puppet.

What do you think?