Finally tried San Pedro

[tryptonaut]

I finally did it - I took my two San Pedros (both like 40cm, homegrown).
I cut pieces about 30-35 cm from both (leaving enough to grow the remaining parts again.
I removed the thorns, cut everything into pieces and cooked them with lemon juice in a pressure cooker for about 2 and a half hours. I wanted to do the main trip the evening after because I had to work the next day, but then I decided to try a small dose the same night.

The cactus goo tastes really awful, almost exactly like puke (I'm not kidding! I never thought cooked cactus could taste like puke, but it does!) That really makes it hard to get down, especially when you have all the waxy skin remains left in it...

So, the amount I took was about 15-20cm, nothing you could expect a great trip from, I really didn't expect much to happen. I had a glass of white wine before and I sat down watching tv having another glass. About 45minutes after ingestion I felt a little wave of something coming up (some restlessness and excitement). However it passed pretty quickly leaving me with the notion that that has been it and the dose was way too low. I had another glass of wine then, feeling pretty sober but very relaxed.

About when I had finished that glass of wine I felt that I would like some music rather than watching tv. I put on some electronics (I think it was Gregor Tresher) and I felt like switching off the lights. After the light was out I felt like opening my windows and then all the doors and windows in my apartment. I moved through all the rooms enjoying doing something I had never done before and I enjoyed the feeling of my apartment being opened all the way and being lit by moonlight only.

At that point I somehow realized I was tripping. It was weird because I felt so clear and sober and at the same time I got this very maningful and spiritual feeling. It was a bit like a small dose of x but together with this very spiritual feeling that I only knew from strong shroom trips (when the weird peak is over and you become extremely clear, enthusiastic and feel like a buddhist monk after a year of meditation).

I think I never felt that creative in my life - I started leaning backwards out of my windows watching the sky, it was so beautiful! I really wanted to capture this and got my dv camera to capture something of it. It was so much fun that I started shooting more video in my apartment. For example I walked around with a video lamp, then I did it again with the lamp gelled with daylight blue - my imagination was very clear about how trippy it would look to mix these two recordings the one with warm colors the other with the cool blue "spooky" look. It was so much fun just doing these things, it was more than great!

Later on I switched off the lights again and started to dance a little, suddenly feeling really spiritual. I was listening to some minimal trance/techhouse stuff but suddenly I would relate animals to different tracks and started dancing according to it. I was really doing a "bear dance" and "snake dance". This didn't even feel "trippy" in a shroom sense, it was just obvious and I enjoyed dancing the way it was supposed to be. I really felt the shamanistic power behind mescaline there.

And all this on a rather weak trip, I really couldn't believe it. Okay I had had the rest of the wine throughout the night, but 0.75l of white wine are not that much for me. I think the wine only added to the good mood, not more.

I really wanted to do more of the cactus the next night, but then everything went the wrong way. I went out with friends first and I came home really late (like 2 in the night) but decided to to more San Pedro anyways.
It took me a very long time to get down the double dose (equalling about 35-40cm) and by the time it hit me I was extremely tired. I was really sleepy and drowsy but I couldn't sleep. Then I was haunted by some bad thoughts for a while. I found out the hard way that no matter how much fun and creativity you can have on mescaline, it's still a psychedelic and you should never take psychedelics when you're totally tired.
Somehow this trip felt weaker than the night before even the dose was doubled and it was just going on my nerves. I felt so bad I had wasted that much of my cacti...

But well, I know now that mescaline is probably the best psychedelic I have ever tried - but it's not a wonder drug, you have to respect the rules of psychedelics to have fun with it.

 

[Guest]

you have to respect the rules of psychedelics to have fun with it.

As always with everything


But nice to hear your first time was really neat

 

[Brugmansia]

Much of the parts are matching with my experiences.

Any form of irritation, psychically can become a real issue on Mesca, I noticed this too. A lil headace is a real pain in the ass! Tireness, which i had at the end of my trip feels like a total burn out. This hypersensetive signs tell you exactly how to treat your body well and clean.

You definitely should have respect for the plant material, I noticed this as well, the effects of Mescaline will confront you with this.

Don't do Mesca impulsive, a sober and planed setting is essential. Otherwise you'll experience a sort of compassion with yourself and your relation with the cactus.

I totally recognized the snake and bear dance! Animals are so fine to observe! Watching National Geographic about animals brought tears in my eyes, I fully understood them.

The sky, moon or sun are undescribable fine to observe and it's like you and that picture melt to one piece.

Next time stay away from the alcohol and eat it as you do with an icecream. San pedro tastes finer for me than any other meal I know. The alcohol may cause a state of relaxtion, but on mesca on his own does already.

I kinda made this misinterpretation with smoking cannabis, as well.

 

[mister_playtime]

totally recognized the snake and bear dance! Animals are so fine to observe! Watching National Geographic about animals brought tears in my eyes, I fully understood them.


hehe i know what i going to watch hopefully there will be elphants on it

 

[Lion]

Is it important to have a good set and setting with Mescaline too then?

Suppose I wanna go trip on Mescaline on a beach somewhere, with my tent closeby; would that be disrespectfull and aggitate me during the trip?

 

[MindAstronaut]

Trippin on the beach in the nature sounds like a good Setting to me..
Mescaline is ideal in the nature, your bound with nature is enormous

Unless its a busy beach where alot of people are around,
then your setting is fucked..

 

[Lion]

No, I plan to do things like this with a certain amount of people.

Only fear is that I'm gonna see bugs and spiders and snakes as I see them on Acid..

 

[MindAstronaut]

Good friends are no problem in that case.
And about the bugs and spiders, have no fear for them there all just a part of a living organism on earth just like humans are.

 

[Ozaki]

hello guys!
i got 5 san pedro cuttings and juste need 3.
the 2 remaining are together 14cm lang is that enough fore a trip?
how much do i you need to got a good trip?(cm and diameter)

 

[Meduzz]

hello guys!
i got 5 san pedro cuttings and juste need 3.
the 2 remaining are together 14cm lang is that enough fore a trip?
how much do i you need to got a good trip?(cm and diameter)

mescaline content can vary from cactus to cactus. if i were you, i would do only one 14cm cutting. if all you cacti are cuttings from the same mother plant (as they often are if you get them from the same vendor) they should all have the same potency because by definition, they are all clones.

so then you also know how potent the cacti you're growing are.

14 cm should be a very light trip i suppose, but i still have to try mescaline and i own a 40cm san pedro and 2cm peyote (more as a decoration )
but this is what i would do.

btw, does anyone know if the cuttings from azarius are clones and if so, how potent they are?

 

[skoeip]

mescaline content can vary from cactus to cactus. if i were you, i would do only one 14cm cutting. if all you cacti are cuttings from the same mother plant (as they often are if you get them from the same vendor) they should all have the same potency because by definition, they are all clones.

Sorry to corect you but clones are not in every way the same, it is the same as identical twins, the genes are the same but they grow up to be diferent. as with the twins, the cactis of the same mother plant are geneticaly the same (clones), but when they are cut and replanted and grow a bit, the minerals in their soil, the amount of light and other things cause the cacti to become diferent, to get a diferent concentration of alkloids. but if the cacti are just cut of the mother plant, and they do have the same motherplant (wich i think is questionable unless one asks the vendor) then the concentration of alkloids could be the same, but I hink the alkloid concentration could aswell differ from part to part in the cactus.

 

[Meduzz]

mescaline content can vary from cactus to cactus. if i were you, i would do only one 14cm cutting. if all you cacti are cuttings from the same mother plant (as they often are if you get them from the same vendor) they should all have the same potency because by definition, they are all clones.

Sorry to corect you but clones are not in every way the same, it is the same as identical twins, the genes are the same but they grow up to be diferent. as with the twins, the cactis of the same mother plant are geneticaly the same (clones), but when they are cut and replanted and grow a bit, the minerals in their soil, the amount of light and other things cause the cacti to become diferent, to get a diferent concentration of alkloids. but if the cacti are just cut of the mother plant, and they do have the same motherplant (wich i think is questionable unless one asks the vendor) then the concentration of alkloids could be the same, but I hink the alkloid concentration could aswell differ from part to part in the cactus.

yes indeed, but i asume that if you have 3 cacti, that you will water them at the same time and use the same soil etc...
with a cactus like san pedro it is very likely that the plants are clones if they come from the same vendor. you can buy a 50cm piece of san pedro, cut it in 5cm pieces, plant them and after a year and a half you have 10 50cm clones, it is a very fast growing cactus.

also, you may not underestimate the genetical "talent" of a cactus to produce mescalin

 

[skoeip]

I do not agree with you, even if they would have the same soil and would be waterd at the same time with the same water and added minerals wouldent they grow up diferently? perhaps one would get a small bug infection at some time and recover of this infection. or one would not develop good roots. how do you know they al exactly take up an even amount of minerals? or take up an even amount of water? I think the mescalin amount could be diferent in every clone cactus, and I think the diference gets bigger when more time passes.

 

[Meduzz]

i didn't say they were going to be EXACTLY the same, but i still say the genetic background is very important, just like with cannabis.

the rising amount of THC in cannabis is due to selecting the best plants for growing the next generation. nature's selection mechanism has been taken over by mankind. There are strains that have buds so large they have to be supported, put this plant on its own in nature and it will die.

this is just to describe the importance of genes and how fast there are differences between strains. and as cacti are mostly cloned there is less interference with other strains, so there are less cacti strains than cannabis strains. "strains" is maybe a big word, better call it "family"...

if you take a look at the tables on the erowid san pedro mescalin content page you will see the following:

fresh dry reference
pachanoi 0.12% 2% CF
pachanoi 0.02%* 0.331% C&M
pachanoi 0.02%* 0.357% T&H
pachanoi 0.006%*-0.14%* 0.1-2.375% H&B

i asume they all tested different "families" and hence had varying results

EDIT: table's fucked up, heres the link: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cact ... _faq.shtml

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I will not write whole story bout mescal triping but I can say that I experienced (2times) half eyed visuals meaning that upper side was like electrical storm (private hurricane) and down part of visual perception was like medium dose of MDA. My mind was clear without acid or mush like produced chaotic mind-thoughts flow. And my whole body were like I was shocked with electric lightnings, just like dancing with thunderstorm. But this was Peyote.

 

[Gratefully_dead]

my first time with san pedro kinda sucked ass lol theres this head shop near where i live in london ontario called hi-times and they have like bongs and shit but then at the back theyve got all kinds of legal psychadelics and so i got a 1 foot stalk of s. p. and me and a few of my close friends were just gonna chill out all night but then we ended up having to split it between like 4 people so we each got maybe 8cm each and nobody tripped at all we all felt kinda lightheaded and kinda strange but no trippage which kinda really sucked but i think i might go back and get another stalk just to eat myself

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I am sorry cause you did not know how much is needed so this is a lesson. I am try this way on my skin also. Mistakes to perfection or something like that. :wink:

 

[tryptonaut]

Mescaline is ideal in the nature, your bound with nature is enormous

I can only underline that. I guess that was the reason I needed to switch off all the lights and open all the doors and windows in my apartment. I would have loved to be on the beach, but that just wasn't an option

The night I had the amazing trip (not very strong, but still amazing) I had really prepared well (a lot of love went into the preparation of the cacuts and I meditated). Then I decided to take a lower dose first, that's why I opened a bottle of wine because I really didn't expect much - but then there it was!

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Can this XP be auto suggestion induced? Cause second time you took more of this cacti beverage and it was not so good and strong as first time. :?: