fear

[BrainEater]

fear... it's the power of the dark side...

i... sense much fear in you...

... much to learn you have young padawans...

:axe:

:weedman:


edit: may the force be with you! :idea:

 

[IJesusChrist]

Fear
It's all the same
Should I evolve
To tend to these sights
Said out loud then said again
If fate's so wrong
You'll start to feel lightheaded
By my admission, nothing grows
Just a longer list of unsorted laws

So why then
Has all my life made no sound
And are your eyes
Closing even now
My life made no sound
I fear your eyes closing

 

[BrainEater]

Love
It's all the same
we wonder, we ponder
is it all just a game?
thunder to splendor
a drop of water, dancing
with the sparkling, shiny flame
you see, it was there before
or are you there for ever more?

Understand
your life has made you sound
this is why
my laws make you cry
upon the windy seas of your mind
you set the sails for oceans of sand

 

[BrainEater]

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[Brugmansia]

Unadulterated contemplation is fear for the mortal who thought he did put its clothes on through established decorations. One in balanced connection with the surface under its feet knows its impossible to wrap a towel around its naked build.

 

[BrainEater]

it's easy tho, to enwrap the unbalanced head in a heavy turbanlike tsunami-piece of ragged-metals-cloth, i suppose... :lol:

 

[_Avatar_]

Yoda stresses the danger of fear more than any other yogi, guru or swami I've encountered in my life. Let's not forget Star Wars is fiction. Under normal circumstances fear doesn't lead to anger.

And you can't tell anyone "you must not fear" or expect them to have any control over it. Fear is a natural response to threatening circumstances, just like sensual lust is a natural response to sexually stimulating imagery. Fear does disappear when your consciousness expands (hence the yogi is described as abhayam: "fearless"), but you can't artificially control it. You can only artificially control its outward expression.

The way to become fearless is to understand you're not this body, this "skin-encapsulated ego" as Alan Watts used to call it. You are a singular conscious manifestation of the entire universe, and so are your family members and other dear ones. Maybe we reincarnate, but it shouldn't really matter.

 

[GregKasarik]

Agreed. Yoda was a crappy source of unenlightenment.

Fear is natural and desirable. Even if you know that you are god, a part of the unitary consciousness, fear of death will ensure that you don't rush back to being reunited with the Divine and thereby fail to achieve all the good that you could have had you stayed around a bit longer.

 

[BrainEater]

"behold the pale horse, you're currently riding on." -man with unimportant name

 

[Phosphorus]

3 days ago i did some shrooms for the first time in a while. Recently i have been looking into luciferianism (mostly the ancient greek lightbearer myths) as can be indicated by my name. So the shrooms where kicking in and i was looking at my trippy curtains. It has two white spots about the size of a head so naturally facial recognision programming is first to identify these spots and since their white, one looked like a skull and one was sort of a insane looking half face. As these things tend to do they seemed to be comming forward behind the curtains when i focussed on them. I was thinking about wether and how the ''base fear programming'' was connected with other programming, most notably the facial recognision one. (would i become a social idiot if i would partially kill the base fear programming)After a couple of minuettes of looking at both faces in turn and thinking about this i was done with it. Yet the skull one kept coming forward and forward so i decided to pop it (not out of fear, this ''base fear programming'' is easily controlled i wasnt tripping hard, i was just done with it but the curtain was folded in sutch a way it kept coming back. So i popped the curtain with my finger and as i moved to sit back down i moved past another light spot in the curtain. There i saw for an instant a fraction of the face that i now realise is the template of my mental archetype of lucifer (not satan) in the traditional western sence, peaking at me trough the curtain. Jagged, verry dark, intellegence i cannot even comprehend, looking at me VERRY intently with, well, probably not the best of intend. Those where the propertys i linked to the image (black and white, 1 eye + part of nose), and for just one second this really scared me ( so i called this deeper fear programming, in this case mostly fear of intelligence/power far beond me intend on me, made me feal like pray, i'm thinking the roots of this pogramming go way back in evolution)) One second later i was somewhat ashamed and rightly felt that dualistic religion and its pathetic lowest denominator misinterpreted archetypes got one over on me! Still i find it interresting and am not done thinking about it. It shows me that popular culture archetypes have in facts succeded (and i do think this is by design, of the ''early church fathers'') to connect to MY deep fear programming. Giving them some power in theory. (i was raised 100% atheist)
I would not have found this at all interresting if it wasnt for the programming narrative (that i was reminded of in this forum, thanks alot), and some interest in lightbearer myths and how christianity incorporated these. + subversion that i have been interrested in for some years now.
Still i wanted to share this.

 

[ophiuchus]

Even if you know that you are god, a part of the unitary consciousness, fear of death will ensure that you don't rush back to being reunited with the Divine and thereby fail to achieve all the good that you could have had you stayed around a bit longer.

this is gold . this is what makes me do what i do

 

[IJesusChrist]

Phosphorus,

Ahh be careful, don't study yourself too much on mushrooms, you'll get stuck. Our brains aren't able to analyze themselves, just as a computer can get a terminal error, and must reboot - we are somewhat the same. I often used to partake in "Why am I thinking the way I am thinking" but it gets very difficult, very quickly.

Although, if you find no trouble with it, go for it. But for whatever reason, it often leads to fear.

 

[BrainEater]

maybe a meditation can help in transcending fear?
reflect on the meaning of what transcendence really is. think about it. then think again and try to integrate yourself. be kind to yourself! try to maintain yourself and the feelings that feel comfortable to you. don't allow too negative stress, hectic or panic.


in order to center yourself in the core of your being, you might need to transcend certain aspects and emotions in you. all what you are, you can experience through your feeling(s) and thoughts, which reside on the plane of consciousness. obviously it may be advantageous to practice, depending on how deep your dives into inner explorations may be going, in places and times that allow your consciousness to expand itself gently without any force.

you will know when you found your center point or you will still be seeking it and whether you know, depends on your acceleration rate and the vibration of your being. your relative mental and emotional position will display themselves to you, if you allow them to, when you achieve the inner state of peace and calmness. at certain levels, measurement of change is expressed and measured within the speed of change.

i strictly don't recommend shamanic endevours to anybody, unless you are very experienced and feeling strong, wise and confident enough. so be careful and stay safe!! if the system has you, unplug yourself or let yourself be unplugged if that's possible, and if you are free, then stay unplugged.
be responsible and sensible at least to your own life. before that, don't focus on unnecessary efforts towards others than yourself, but in turn don't needlessly reject help from kind people and don't let dogs piss on you.

peace :weedman:

 

[IJesusChrist]

I've been meditating, although I don't think I'm doing it right. Either way, I have much to learn from meditation, and much meditation to partake in.

 

[BrainEater]

everything can be like meditation, if you allow it to be. i mean this like when you achieve to let it take over your general state of mind, when you established to center yourself in your most deep inner self, then you can live your life in peace. then your inner wisdom can shine thru constantly. consciousness without the self-imposed limitations (natural and artificial).

without fear and all that can come with it, if you allow it to be more deeply rooted in you than that what you call "you" or "i" from your perspective may disappear, yet the other way round it appears to be a more beneficial position. lol
so, well i guess that's probably why fears are better to be confronted than to be run away from or ignored.
i don't see the need to turn all the fears to ego-dramas or ego-games. they can also be transcended on your own, but then of course it might be that some fears are too strong for you to transcend alone.
actually, i think some fears are rooted in the group consciousness and not in the individual consciousness, which might explain why the plane of creation of problems like such fears, conditions the difficulty and paths for solving them.