Extremes of Set and Setting

[JimmyEulogy]

I've recently become curious how much I can affect my trips through putting more effort into set and setting. Thus I'm wondering what are some of your more focused attempts at creating specific environments or events through the manipulation of set and setting. How successful were you, what drugs did you use, how many people, detailed preparation instructions, etc.

I think trying to recreate a fascinating experience someone else had (of course with your own self sprinkled throughout) could be interesting.

For example, tripping in a religious building with a small group of others as you worship some deity (with perhaps some time spent before the day of tripping devoting yourself to this deity). Or, building a shrine for a work of art with the intent of immersing yourself into the picture. Stuff like that.

edit - grammar

 

[ophiuchus]

if one's taken enough, then looking at the back of your eyelids should be all that they'll need/want to do. gearing a trip around being able to do this comfortably is what i aim for. and then experiencing nature during the comedown (the desire comes naturally for me).

imo if you're trying to focus on "doing something" that is, a particular activity, or trying to plan a day around a specific schedule of events beforehand, then one hasn't taken enough, or isn't prepared. if there ever was such a thing, dabbling would be the only enemy to the psychedelic experience.

my advice: take enough for the *full* effects. let oneself have time and place to prepare themselves beforehand, handle/deal with themselves during, and experiment afterwards, in an environment geared around facilitating whatever it is that they may want to do at that time.

:nod:

 

[JimmyEulogy]

What you said makes a lot of sense, especially with respect to "strong" psychedelics (acid, shrooms, etc.).

The reason I'm interested in provoking types of experiences through set and setting is because I'm trying to intensify my marijuana sessions. But like you alluded to the key is probably to just smoke more pot.

 

[ararat]

if you want strong marijuana experiences you should make some butter with it. I made some from the leaves from my plant that I'd usually throw away, and boy that stuff is strong. I had three teaspoons of that butter and I tripped my ass off yesterday. when I woke up next morning I was still so high that I couldn't fall asleep again :lol:

 

[ophiuchus]

even a half gram will have one soaring for about 6 hours if cooked/ingested properly.

more is not always better. if you have a high tolerance from smoking a lot, then you simply will not have more powerful experiences with mj. you must lower your tolerance before that will happen.

anywho, check this site out. somebody recommended it a couple weeks ago, and i've been really digging the recipes section for cooking it.

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/

 

[IJesusChrist]

interesting topic...

I would say in order to really increase the potency of marijuan, abstain from it for 6 months.

hard, right? I know... well I don't know, but thats what I hear.

go sober for 6 months then smoke out of a bong. set and setting won't matter at that point. You'll wonder how you got so tall... :lol:

 

[ararat]

6 months is plenty. I think that the period after the first month doesn't make much of a difference anymore, in fact, for me there is already a very noticeable difference after one week of abstinence.
what I also think is that the effects are totally different depending on if you smoke the weed, or if you vaporize/eat it. the latter tends to be more of a clear, vital high, while burning it makes me kinda tired and heavy. the sudden onset of a pure bonghit can be quite something though had one of the most beautiful psychedelic experiences after one of those, hands down.

but as allusion said, more is not necessarily better.. it can be too much at one point or another. you'll notice when you're there

 

[JimmyEulogy]

Ohh edibles do sound like a good idea. I haven't had them since I've really begun trying to explore my mind.

 

[IJesusChrist]

6 months is plenty. I think that the period after the first month doesn't make much of a difference anymore, in fact, for me there is already a very noticeable difference after one week of abstinence.
what I also think is that the effects are totally different depending on if you smoke the weed, or if you vaporize/eat it. the latter tends to be more of a clear, vital high, while burning it makes me kinda tired and heavy. the sudden onset of a pure bonghit can be quite something though had one of the most beautiful psychedelic experiences after one of those, hands down.

but as allusion said, more is not necessarily better.. it can be too much at one point or another. you'll notice when you're there

have you ever tried 6 months?

 

[ararat]

I probably had pauses like this once or twice, but I don't have any special memories about that. the most special experience with marijuana actually came rather unasked and while I was in my not-but-almost-daily consuming pattern.

 

[MichaelVipperman]

To me, the "extremes of set and setting" would be sensory deprivation vs massive stimulation. So, Burning Man vs the Psychotherapeutic approach, say.

Have you had an almost totally inward directed trip yet? Eyeshades, headphones, somewhere comfortable to lie, and someone to watch over you for a few hours.

 

[JimmyEulogy]

To me, the "extremes of set and setting" would be sensory deprivation vs massive stimulation. So, Burning Man vs the Psychotherapeutic approach, say.

Have you had an almost totally inward directed trip yet? Eyeshades, headphones, somewhere comfortable to lie, and someone to watch over you for a few hours.

That's pretty much what I meant by extremes. Somewhat interested in ideas for "massive stimulation".

I've really only begun trying sensory deprivation within the past ~ 1 month with my marijuana usage (dark room, laying on bed, ambient music). I actually just read your article talking about the model being pursued in therapeutic settings, which is exactly what I want to pursue with my next "heavy" psychedelic.

 

[DOCTORGO]

ok