Experienced Psychonauts?

[DJ_Filos]

In the last year I began my study into the hellucengenic world. I have tripped on mus and l over 20 times (between 1-12 and atleast a week or two apart) in the last 7 months. Psycodelics have had a profound positive impact on my life in many ways. I have never had a craving for anything but mus, l, mol, and weed because I only have the urge to explore my mind. The question keeps popping into my mind.. does it turn out all right? Will it ruin my ability to function in life? Will I be able to complete school as planned? It would be appreciated if someone could ease my troubled thoughts with their experience.

 

[ProStoner]

well... if u are going to complete school is all up to you..
there will probably come a time when u get a really profound trip
that might make u think going to school is pretty useless and that u have to look for something else to do..
it is then up to you to decide wether u should be influenced by a drug that badly
and maybe just first finishing your school anyways.. whatever happens
I`ve been challenged with school and work and life so many times
but u just have to find your way between them.. to make it work in the way it works for you and for the people you are close to
there are people that give up there school, work or whatever to be a shaman or something like that
I admire them .. but if its the best thing to do is another...there are so many aspects to these decisions.. I could not start to explain them all
i`m not a psychologist
if u keep a sober head once in a while, and really .. and then I mean Really think about these things, im confident it will turn out ok

greetz
Pro

 

[HeartCore]

I've only 15 years tripping experience so I dont know if I count as an expert

The question keeps popping into my mind.. does it turn out all right? Will it ruin my ability to function in life? Will I be able to complete school as planned? It would be appreciated if someone could ease my troubled thoughts with their experience.

Tricky question, mushrooms will not damage you physically in any way. Furthermore they are not addictive. They do possess however, as all hallucinogens do, a quality to (not my quote ) "lift any mind out of its cognitive Kans.". The real question is, can you deal with that?

It wont turn out right or wrong and it doesnt ruin your life. Its you that will turn our right or wrong and will or wont ruin your life. Mushrooms dont have that power, they just stand there, waving in the wind, they can't get to you and hurt you. But the things they can show you can have a very deep impact, as you already know, on your life. They can show you facts about the mechanics of the world that are exactly opposite of what 'they' want you to believe. If you can deal with that, you will be ok I guess.

 

[DJ_Filos]

I didn't mean mushrooms as much because I beleive they have no negative effects besides mabye liver damage? I have no mushrooms connect but a very strong large lucy connect that keeps me tripping. Well.. I guess we will have to wait and see :].

 

[Brugmansia]

It's all about how you handle it in your mind. A capable mind knows how to manage his use to guarantee his position in the society.

No one but yourself can really answer this question, one smokes weed once and gets paranoid. Another takes in what not every week or day and stays clear and does his job in the society well.

 

[Brewmaster]

I'd slow down on your drug use, especially while going to school. 20 trips in 7 months time isn't too terribly bad but it's not good for you either. At the height of my adventures with lsd I was tripping once a week for a few months and fairly regularly for years after that. Hallucinogens definitely impair your cognitive functions when used too heavily. I could tell that I wasn't as quick to form sentences when having normal conversations; not like I was standing there drooling on myself like an idiot, I just had to think harder about choosing words and putting them together. I started to read slower and often times I'd finish a page or two and didn't even absorb the tiniest bit of information and I'd have to go back and read whatever it was again. All this really pissed me off because reading is one of my favorite things to do and I hate not being sharp and focussed.

Anyways, I would be much more concerned about your brain than your liver. I wont argue that hallucinogens can't teach you a thing or two or give you some valuable insights, but they're not going to give you the education your professors are. There will always be time to abuse your body but before you go crazy with the drug use, get a good education first. Knowledge is power and it's the only thing that can never be taken away from you. Learn everything you can before you go out and try to forget it.

 

[spice]

good advice...


I found that I definitely have some cognitive issues from massive hallucinogen intake, no doubt. But because I never got into hallucinogens, truly, until I was older, I believe that I am able to integrate these changes into who and what I am better than I could have when I was 18.

Just what kind of cognitive issues? As brewmaster said, verbal ability does seem to be somewhat reduced...also I have found that theres a lag sometimes between my hearing what someone says and my processing of what they said of a second or two....

However, this may not have entirely negative implications. An older academic such as myself, whose world was steeped words and concepts, may find that heavy psychedelic use alleviates the left brain hyper-rationality dominance, and allows a lot of perception in that has always been filtered through the
screen of verbal concepts.

Most of the type of learning you will do in college is two kinds;

a) rote memorization

and

b) deductive reasoning

these are both classic 'left brain' processes and they will be slowed by psychedelics

but the 'other' kind of thinking, which uses your other hemisphere, 'right brain' thinking, may be amplified, and greatly.

This pertains to art and music and other non-linear activities, and if all the right brain had to offer was artistic appreciation, that would be great...


but the real gift of psychedelics for me was the manifestation of what is called 'inductive reasoning'...this is the part of yuor brain that already knows most of the answers, but doesn't speak to you in words...it speaks shamanistically, in concepts.


So, no, you're not going to become a drooling retard, but you need to develop your basics first ( deductive reasoning, memory, etc.) so that you are able to USE what they give you.

 

[spice]

PS- be aware that the biggest negative consequence of all these substances;

a government that truly believes you are too stupid to be allowed to determine what goes into your own body has decided to take years from your life if it catches you

Why are they so afraid ? One may think...

Very simple, watch The Matrix and understand the underlying message;

We're batteries.

That generate cash flow.

Not electricity.

Yet.

 

[silv]

PS- be aware that the biggest negative consequence of all these substances;

a government that truly believes you are too stupid to be allowed to determine what goes into your own body has decided to take years from your life if it catches you

Why are they so afraid ? One may think...

Very simple, watch The Matrix and understand the underlying message;

We're batteries.

That generate cash flow.

Not electricity.

Yet.

i like to think a bit more positive about the world, but it seems I'll have to agree with you to some extent.......

 

[tryptonaut]

In my experience hallucinogens (but also marihuana) have made it harder for me to learn pure theory from books. It doesn't bother me now because I am still good at learning new things (theoretical and practical) when they're in my field of interest. I also think I found my own creativity and I am nowadays able to combine theory and creativity. Also I got a job where I can be creative (not always, but most of the time).

However, most of my heavy drug experiences took place after I had finished school with good grades (except for a few good mdma hits...) - I'm not sure what would have happened had I started taking hallucinogens a lot earlier. I suppose at least my grades would have been worse, mostly because I wouldn't have been able to learn the "grey theory" anymore.