Do some durgs affect the tolerance of another drug?

[Djones]

Next week I'm going to Sonica, a 5 days Psychedelic music festival in Italy.
But last year, when I really didn't know anything about drugs, I just took Mdma three days straight

Of course that wasn't such a great idea, I found out later.

And in July I went to another festival where I thought Lsd would work just fine day after day, so that I also took 3 days straight
Actually from the first day which was my first experience with that stuff, I never had any enormous hallucinations although I really enough of that stuff.

But now, since I know that taking any drugs and I believe maybe Ghb doesn't belong in that group, will probably work only for 50% or so if you take it 2 days in a row, I wonder if also one drug would affect the effects of another the next day?

See, I wanna make some kind of plan of what I should take the 1st till the 4th night without screwing up and having the maximum of fun.

Thanks!

 

[Lion]

Shrooms all the run

 

[Djones]

Shrooms all the run

I heard for Shroom you also need to wait like 2 weeks before you go for another trip!?
How about Lsa seeds or Mescaline?

 

[Lion]

Lsa & mescaline will make your stomache hurt and make you puke.

Tbh i find that hallucigonens should be respected for an educational entheogenic use only.


Get laid 3 days in a row or pump up your adrenaline for 3 days straight.
Real human drug power baby

 

[Brugmansia]

^ Bullshit. You just need to fast smart.

But mesca on a festival is a big no no for me. Also doing more psychedelics shortly in a row, decreases the enthogenic blast quickly. LSD causes for sure heavy hallucinations at higher dosages on your own, but when interacting with people, the acid effects are pushed to the background.

There's a cross tolerance between LSD and shrooms.

I never noticed that G works less by the next intakes, except that it gets boring. And I considered it as a normal feeling when used repeatly. It quickly becomes a habit to take when you're in the posession of higher quantities.

E however, should be used very rarely to keep the intens overwhelming euphoria. Once every four months from the very first intake on and then one big hit from 130 mg's up to 150 mg's.

 

[Lion]

Even if you fast, your stomache will crawl together becayse off all the poison kicking in..

 

[MindAstronaut]

I noticed last week that mdma also affect the effects of 2cb.

I did mdma the night before and that other night 2cb, and i had no visuals what so ever on 30 mg of 2cb just some little feeling and very low quality Cev's.

It really pissed me of in some way but it was my own stupid fault. :?
I should know that 2cb is closely related to mdma.
And that it maybe react to the same receptors in the brain.
(althrough im not sure of this. but it seems logical to me)

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

You can mix only some psydelic and stimulating drugs every day and day after. What I mean? LSD will work now and only after 5 days(but lower effect and probably anxious and bad triping) but than you will need to wait minimum 15 days.

Ecstasy will work some days but you will need to double yours dosage for 100%. First day supreme effect, second day will be more speed like, third day 25%MDMA and 75% speed like, after that only 300-400% higher dose will produce MDMA effect but you will need to take 5-10 tablets of E!!!!!! And after this I can put my head on guillotine that you will have psychotic mind and great depression :!:

GHB is similar to low dose of LSD, medium dose of MDMA and medium dose of methadone! I have never try it but I know someone who has and this is description. Your mind after 5 days is going to suffer high toxic damage!!!

My advice is for you to start with psydelic like shrooms or LSD for first day(tryptamine drugs)
Second day use MDMA or ecstasy pills.(phenylethylamine)
Third day use GHB.
Fourth day mix alcohol with speed or coke, with some ecstasy-(tryptamine and phenylthylamine)
Fifth day mix alcohol with some speed(little) and benzodiazepines and amino acids for recovery.

You will destroy some of yours neurons but this is HARM REDUCTION tip.
Remember! One day tryptamine and second day phenylethylamine drugs. After that GHB, barbiturates-benzos-opiates like methadone or opium poppy tea. And lots of amino acids pills. Phenylamines and triptamines do not have cross tolerance! I believe that my words help you 8)

 

[GOD]

DMT works over and over . GHB is dangerous boring SHIT stay away from it . I like MDA very mutch but you can almost feel the brain cells dying if you take a good dose and i`m sure MDA and MMDA , MDMA cause cross tolerance . Don`t fuck coke by mixing it with speed . Valium are nice to come down on but be carefull with valium and alcohol , allthough 1 valium 10mg plus 2 beers is ok if you are into falling off chairs . Dont take valium with speed , take it afterwards to come down on . LSA and Mescaline are not for festivals . Mushrooms and LSD are a one trip every 2 weeks maximum or it will just confuse you and make you feel uncomfortable . L-tryptothan are realy nice to stop the bad effects after extacy and MDA , but DON`T take them together with the extacy / MDA . If i were you i would be carefull buying unidentified chemicals from strangers . Fasting , festivals and drugs dont mix unless you want to loose 20 - 30 kilos of weight and / or die . Methadon has no high or drug effects thats why they give it junkies . They might not all cause cross tolerance but you will definately feel totaly fucked if you take drugs like those 5 days in a row , burnt out physicaly and mentaly . And we are talking about ABUSE not use .

If i were you i would forget most of the things that have been mentioned and just take a good trip on the second night and smoke canabis for the rest of the time and dance yourself into a trance . Sex is allso a good idea .

Take care and have fun .

 

[buffachino]

GOD, you have proven yourself a surprising man. You summed it up beautifully dude. I agree on every point.

Uuumm, yeah. Enough has been said...

USE RESPONSIBLY AND CAREFULLY!
Don’t abuse substances or anything for that matter; and don’t run your body into the ground like some retard junkie. That’s only culminating the problem of our persecution further.

Peace.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I am surprised what you have sad :wink: (God and Buffachino)
I am really sorry but Djones(do not take it hard cause I have also listen this from one older guy 10 years ago, weird cause now I am telling this to somebody which is like me when I was younger) is pearson who will eventually become drug user or how you are saying abuser which will have result after some years as drugs recovering guy or even death will happen!

He is just trying to say to all off us what he is going to do nerveless what we are saying and advising. He only want to hear how and when to take those chems and this is why I have posted what to do and what to mix.

And God methadone is nice drug with potent euphoric and sedative effects! This is not only junkie survival meal. I know lots of methadone users (no junkies or therapy kind one cause they are buying methadone on street and for 100mg they are paying from 11.5€ to 14€)
Valium and alcohol is not so powerful combo! Maybe to someone who takes it couple times per year but I know guys who are taking 15 pills at once. I have also been user some years ago. My max dose were 73pills and I can tell you that haven't falling from chair! :wink: All that is subjective thing and wearies from person to person.

 

[GOD]

For me your 5 day drug plan sounded sensible for people who are into that type of thing . BUT ....I used to be adicted to alcohol when i was 16 drinking a bottle of sherry , a bottle of whiskey mac and 6 beers a day , then later barbiturates like tuinal , seconal and secobarbital , later mixed opiates like heroin , morphine hydrochlorate and sulphate , opium tinkture , diconal and palfium . and later valium taking 160mg a day plus 8 fortral and beer . Valium come in 5 and 10 mg pills , I have years of experience with alcohol and valium as have a lot of my friends . I used to have methadon in pint = 435 ml bottles , i couldnt sell it , no one would buy it and no one would take it unless they had cold turkey . There is NO euphoria , but you are right there is a slight sedative effect for people who arent junkies . I have experience of it as a junkie , dealer and when i was clean . I have never had a proper job , i just took drugs every day , all day for 35 years . I sold all those drugs for a lot of years . We used to do drug olympics and see how mutch we could take of every drug in the british pharmacopea . Trying to see how many pills we could get in our mouths and swallow at once and how many ampules we could fix at once . Just sit down with a shopping bag full of ampules and pump them up in big syrynges , not those poxy little insulin syrynges. I didnt buy it on the street , we stole it all out of chemists , vetenarians , old peoples homes , doctors surgerys and hospital pharmacys so i know it was pure. Our record was 43 chemists in 3 months . I have fixed opium tinkture , whiskey and bacardi and have had 2 people die in my arms of drug overdoses . So i think i am qualified to tell anyone about those sorts of drugs , and especialy that about methadone and valium . You probably didnt have problems with valium because of your experience with hard drugs and your resulting tolerance , for new users valium and alcohol can be very dangerous .

I`m crying my eyes out now remembering the old days and ALL my junkie friends who are now dead .

For all the people reading this PLEASE dont punish yourself like that . Dont wast your lives with SHIT . Smoke hash and drop trips and love each other . Try to find the god within you . Ask and you will get an answer , knock and the door will open , look and you will find .

 

[buffachino]

Respect my friend; much love and respect.
All should heed these words and not take your body, mind or soul for granted.
Learn and grow from the hardships and experience of others and yourself.

Peace.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

You MAN have experienced (sorry for expression) a fucking drug storming-lightning, foolish, adventuring and excentric, death kissing part of yours 2/3 of life. Hard story. I have also go through that when I was younger, from 11years old to the end of my 22. Even now I am taking prescribed. medications (from Doc. of course) but never again in chaotic and unlimited way. Something has change me in early 20ies with result that limbo way of life has ended. I was dead three times. First death kiss from 300mg of oxesapamum (than with 12year), second time from scopolamine poisoning (I have eated whole Datura plant-15 seed pods) and last time when I were 16 years old I have take (by someone else accident-only methadone) 120mg of methadone pills, 20 Valium 10mg pills, 5 Phenobarbital 100mg pills, 2l of vine, 5 beers, and half of whiskey bottle which I have find near clubs entrance. My buddy and me succeeded to get into club without paying the ticket and than all this starts to work hard, I remember my last words to my friend: Shit man I am dying, start to crying and fell unconscious. 8 naltrexone were not enough to awake me and in hospital my heart stops and barley after doctors have juice me starts to pump again. This is reality what happens to many of young opiate experimenters! I have forgotten that later I almost kill myself with 10mg of epinephrine-this was fourth time.

All together, users have similar stories what they were survived to tell. Ask someone in N.Y. or London or Moscow or some Tokyo user. But I am always shocked with those stories. Easy on self and good health.

 

[Brugmansia]

Talking about the line-up 4 days straight on, I'd do it this way then.

Kick off with G, smoke weed, do acid and finish with MDMA.

And if you want to be speeded up 3 days straight, MDMA is a waste for the heavenly blast and unwanted serotonine release, then better take plain amphetamine.

G gives no hang-over, weed is relatively mild, and M gives the hardest after effects which is no fun to experience when doing acid. So last day M. Also, you don't want to come off M while on acid (candyflipping)

 

[Guest]

So last day M. Also, you don't want to come off M while on acid (candyflipping)

Well, that's not exactly true, my gf and another friend of mine don't have any problem with this, hell, I know someone who would never take MDMA without candyflipping !

 

[Brugmansia]

I prefer the sharp vision and full energy of M on it's own. Not the mention the extreme introvertness and extravertness I get from these 2 substances.

Btw, did you had your 2nd M experience yet Tiax? Remember that you were planning it every 4 months. How did the 2nd time went?