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DO I HAVE AIDS? or does HIV=AIDS?

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DOES HIV = AIDS? or is it a SCAM?!!

  • I agree with Nina Hagen and question AIDS totally!

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  • I don't think so... Haven't given it a real thought...

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  • I heard it's heavy drug consumption that can create "AIDS"

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  • I say like Kary Mullis. They never isolated any VIRUS!

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  • I think it's man made in a laboratory. Problaby in USA...

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  • I'm not sure!

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  • I'm sure AIDS exists! Cause they said that on TV!

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Glandeuse Pinéale
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What do you do if you end up in hospital with pneumonia, lose 9 kilo in weight in four weeks and the doctors are convinced you gonna die since your'e a little queer, normal gay dude with an excessive sexual behaviour?!! And you just had some venerial disease and been put on heavy antibiotics and after some partying, and living poor and not eating well and you're immune system have been flattened down to the bottom...?

Do you believe the doctors that just wanna convince you that you gonna die, and that it must be (FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!) absolutely certain that you must have catched the AIDS thing?!! The same doctors that serve you microwaved food , fluoride IQ lowering toothpaste , shitty products filled with artificial sweeteners and E621 posionous taste enhancers even though the risk for cancer is well researched and written about!!! Do you believe in their sane judgement or are they just duped by the AIDS industry?

Do you believe the official AIDS story or do you start to investigate the broader perspective and look for insightful brave beings that can help you get back to strenght?

I didn't believe the official AIDS fear story! There's far to much information showing a broader truth regarding this issue. And you should know about this!


FULL STORY HERE>>>
http://www.realityportal.info/content/view/243/73/
 
Where is the option "I'm sure AIDS exist because I know people with AIDS"????

How could anyone in their right mind question AIDS?
 
I also thought so... Before...

I've put some documenteries together about this that MOST DEFINETLY WILL ENLIGHTEN YOUR and YOUR FRIENDS PERSPECTIVE.

See one or some of those and write back with comments... everyone I know that see them get fucking mad and totally change view!!!

Your fucking life and friend wellbeing depends on it!!!

http://www.realityportal.info/index.php ... &cat_id=30

Love and kindness


Kevin Zaar/Reality portal
 
I'm watching "HIV=AIDS: fact our fraud" right now.

I watched only 17min right now and for now it's a good documentary with good scientific facts, but where is it aiming at?
 
After watching the documentary, I've come to the conclusion: the science is complete bunk.

some of my arguments are:

The reason antibodies don't kill HIV is because the virus coats itself in host cell material (that doesnt ellicit a response).

It's true that the virus doesn't (per se) kill the cell - what usually kills infected cells is the response from the white blood cells (the cells HIV infects).
viruses change the cell so that it puts more energy into creating virons instead of repairing itself, and doing other jobs - i.e producing factors that ellicit immune response. Usually immune response kills infected cells - but because the infected cells are the ones expected to start the immune response no head way is made in fighting the virus.

Koch's postulates: despite what the documentary wants you to think - koch's postulates are in a way out dated - they were put in place for bacterial, fungal, and parasitic diseases before viruses were discovered, and waaay before retroviruses were discovered - so koch's postulates are difficult to link to many aquireable diseases - viruses and prions to be precise.

The reason not many people around that have HIV AND AIDS is because a) The HIV is being kept in check by antiretroviral drugs, so AIDS hasn't started yet. and b) people don't live very long after they do develop AIDS so saying "lots of people have HIV but few have AIDS" doesn't prove anything - only that there aren't many people alive after developing AIDS.

There is soo much more wrong with this "documentary" all I think its doing is using peoples lack of education to sensationalise a disprovable conspiricy theory.
 
My cousin that was diagnosed with so called HIV... He got this so called medication, AZT, wich was developed as a chemotherapy treatment, but so extremely toxit that they hadn't used it for 30 years.

Suddenly they invent a "GAY DISEASE" and dust it off the shelfs. Even though it's an DNA terminator. Each time you take this posion it erases your DNA randomly.

My cosuin died shortly a year after.

I miss him still.

Other friends that were diagnosed didn't believe in the so called medication. They moved out on the counrty side in Sweden and have never had an health problem for the last 15 years.

The same forces that put fluor in the water and toothpaste even though it's proven to lower IQ, the same forces that developed ASPARTAME, that makes people fat and stupid, developed by Rumsfeldt as a bioweapon against humanity in the 70s, the same forces that given us this never ending war on drugs, wich in reality in awar on certain drugs that might make you see through the illusion, the same forces that put crap on TV and told NINA HAGEN (STERN MAGAZINE) that they we're not allowed to write about this issue, the same forces that told you wewent to the moon, even though more and more people realize that if that ever was true there shoul have been daily moonflights and MCDonalds up there by now, but mysteriously quiet, the same forces that is planning to ban vitamins and minerals via the so called CODEX law... The same forces like Monsanto that force farmers to grow their Genatically Manipulated shit so that they can't use the offspring of the seeds as one naturally does but have to buy new ones each year, the same forces that put an president with an IQ of an monkey in charge of the USA...

I'm surprised that my fellow Psychonauts still have so much research to do.

I don't let FEAR RULE MY LIFE. I know that death doesn't exist.


Love and Kindness
 
You write

After watching the documentary, I've come to the conclusion: the science is complete bunk.

Well, when KAry Mullis, Anobel prize winner that taken acid and is really a cool dude, that got Nobel prize 1993 for the so called PCR syntetesis, and they use his discovery for the so called HIV tests says:

"If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a high probability. There is no such document."
Dr. Kary Mullis, Biochemist, 1993 Nobel Prize for Chemistry.

Check this AIDS WIKI
http://www.reviewingaids.org/awiki
 
I'm really not meaning to argue, but here's some things to think about:

http://www.aidstruth.org/aids-denialist ... e-died.php

I'd just say in regard to the kary mullis idea that dispite the fact that he's invented PCR (a good thing dispite how much of a pain in the ass it is to do) taken LSD, invented uv sensitive plastic, it doesn't mean he can't be wrong - I believe he also denies climate change and ozone depletion - other scientifically supported theories.

The graph I've included, although it doesn't in itself prove HIV is linked with AIDS, It's very strong evidence for the fact, showing the immune response diminishing viral load within the first few days of infection (HIV continues to replicate in lymphatic tissue though), viral load then rises slowly but steadily over years, whereas CD4+ cells decrease slowly but steadily, until few CD4+ cells remain per ml - allowing any microorganisms that make it past mechanical and chemical barriers to thrive inside the body.

What isn't shown in this particular graph is the rise in relative antibody numbers in the first month or so, followed by a leveling off over the years of dormancy and then a decline in the years leading up to AIDS as the body loses general immunity (humoural and cell mediated).

^all of the above is characteristic of the HIV caused model for AIDS.

But don't take my word for - there is a wealth of information in the form of peer reviewed papers many of which may be available on the internet.

Finally I'd say that I don't mean any disrespect of your point of view, just that from what I know from working with and studying microorganisms, leads me to the conclusion that the information put forward in this documentary is misleading at best.
 
I have total respect for you and your view. But also you have to be humble enough to realize that there are other perspectives - that are being heavily surpressed. Like `s the truth about the drugwar. I beleive it's the same mechanism behind. And therefore I truly just ask for you to have an openhearted humble perspective... And just be open, even for the unthinkable. And always try to keep an open mind.

I will actually meet an Amsterdam so called AIDS expert tomorrow and interview him before and after I showed him some of the alternative AIDS perspective documenteries. He's one of the most well known AIDS specialist in TheNetherlands and it will be very interesting.

I will look into the chart and link above and write an reply regarding that shortly. But please do look on the

The Other Side of AIDS
http://www.realityportal.info/index.php ... ideo_id=23

AIDS Inc. (Gary Null) (2007)
http://www.realityportal.info/index.php ... ideo_id=65

HIV=AIDS?
http://www.realityportal.info/index.php ... deo_id=412

They are all very interesting and connects some of the broadest minds regarding this isse.

Love and kindness

Kevin/Reality Portal
 
Hi Pariah,

I have checked the site and the information and it's interesting. There are always of course forces/people believing a broad variety regarding sutch a hot topic as this is.

Ii can only say that I've met many people through out the years that have been diagnosed with so called HIV. And I remember myself the evening newspaper Expressen in Sweden and their frontpage, I believe it was 1984, and a person with a hospital mask held up a testtube with blood on the frontpagepic. and it stood AIDS with big black letters.

Ever since that day as a gay man, I and many with me have been carrying the feeling of a so called Damokles Sword hanging over onces head. And a feeling of fear that this could fall and change your life at any given moment.

I know this feeling, cause I carried it around for so many years of my life. And i know what it can do. And I've seen what it have done with beloved beings....

At the same time I started researching, exploring this issue in any given the direction. I've always been curious and an explorer of reality.

Then I suddenly realized that many of my friends that had been diagnosed and taken the so called medications all had died and I miss them all. I started to notice that the ones that I've met that didn't buy into the victim thing and instead of taking the so called meds did all they could to boost their immunesystem all were living fine. Even though that they had been diagnosed HIVpositive they had no problem. Actually were healthier than most others i know.

This got me to wonder. And I started to reseach this issue in depth.

And there's so many puzzlepieces that I have been puting together in consideration. For instance what the US governmet have been doing towards human beings, americans and others throughout the years. I feel the last honest president was Kennedy and ever since that country have been on a moral decline.

Many researchers that I've been following interpeting reality for the last 15 years, that have been right on time after time predicting major world event and coming disasters were also starting to questioning this entire AIDS industry.

For instance, tragically enough a jar of this higly toxic AZT drug cost around 5$ to produce and are being sold for 500$. Something that the taxpayers are paying. A year consumption could cost 12.000$!!!

So someone is making billons of dollars a year. And also I was chocked to realize that the same company prducing the AZT was one of the biggest producer of the "gaydrug" poppers.

Those are only a few of hundreds of pieces to a broader view regarding this issue. But I can say that after years of in depth studies of this subject suddenly one day the feeling of fear abandonen me.

I just knew in my heart that we all had been lied to.

Also I can say that I've had some major spiritual experiences were I connected with timeless consciousness. Once with an Egyptian godess, when I acidently hypnotised a friend in Stockholm 1992.

Suddenly this godess consciouness not bound by time and space entered my friends body. I was told that this idea of creating an RealityPortal, documentary portal project to transform the future for mankind only was an idea till I actually started to do something with that thought, and that maybe I actually could do it. Even though I had no clue how.

I was told that death doesn't excist, it's only transformation of awareness. And that when we die we just enters another reality as vivid and real as this, maybe even more.

I was told about what was gonna happend in the future and that I had been chosen to spread a broader awareness in the World, but whatever I did I had to promise to never do things of egoistic reason and to always follow my heart.

It was like an Oracle in Delphi experience and transformed my life in every possible way. it inspired me to never fear and to always follow the voice inside. And that voice is talking clearly to me, calming me and make me realize that we havebeen lied to.

And since all the things that I was told one after each other has materialized I've come to realize I have to trust my intuition. And I always try the keep the broadest mind and an open heart.

So that is what I can tell you.

And that I'm making a special part of the Reality Portal documentary series that will go in depth regarding this issue. Totally!

Already the first part: Reality Portal, part 1, Freedom Fighters!
A 2 hour collage documentary showing many hot thought provocative issues are dealing/touching this subject. Maybe 20% of the movie is about this subject.

You can see it on Video Google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ion%3Along

So, I can only say that in my heart, I have this feeling that always been guiding me right. And I have to trust it.


Kindest greetings

Kevin Zaar/Reality Portal
 
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