Discrimination (english)

[forest]

The last few days I was hoping to find some openminded psychonauts on the vegan-forum. what I found were some fucking STRAIGHT EDGER's.
they couldn't handle it by words and started calling me a junk. forunately there were also some nice people.

also in the area I live in, psychonauts are discriminated (by chistians etc.) and there is zero understanding. people are not willing to listen and see everythink throu coloured glasses.

in discussions it is often 50-50, but i still have a bit of lack of good, ''sober'', research and black on white stuff to show or tell.

if anyone has artilkes or whatever psychonauts could use to defend our way of live in discussions, please post a link.
and how are you treated in you living-area?

 

[HeartCore]

Forest

Since the last two/three years I am participating in a forum related to Neale Walschs books 'converstation with God'. The crowd there is part christian, part new age and part others. The first 1.5 years I've been having great discussions about God, life, you name it. At some point, there was a discussion about religious experiences and that was the opening I was waiting for so I started a discussion about psilocybin..

Big fights on that forum. I lived in France back then, grew mushrooms and was very open minded about it all (very open in communications also). I had this big strong argument with a guy who is a doctor in biology. After two weeks of discussing, I received an email from him which can be summed up as follows:

Dear Heartcore,

We've been discussing these hallucogens and had some misunderstandings. I wish to inform you that last night I brew ayahuasca in my kitchen and took it. Nothing could prepare me for this experience, I really thank you for visiting this forum and opening up this opportunity for me. Tomorrow my growing kit from some company called Azarius will arrive.

Cheers,
Some guy


A month later he send me a bit of his harvest.

Then the forumrules where changed, it was no longer allowed to talk about drugs there. Ofcourse, I didnt accept that and started a new topic. The situation is now that sometimes, someone will jump in and talk about junkies and all. Just live with that, there will always be people like that and furthermore, you have to be very aware that many people just visit a forum to cause trouble.

There are now at least three people on that forum that are experimenting with mushrooms, two of them have started to grow them themselves. Since I know that, I can take any junkie remark with a grain of salt.

Some tips:

Be and stay yourself
NEVER let them cope you into name calling
always be friendly, look at arguments and anwers them with your heart.
If you feel reactive, you probably are, just step back and reply a few hours later when you are better able to deal with it.

I respect and support your willingness in sharing this info with people who think ( ) they dont want to hear.

HC

 

[BooYa]

very wise lessons HeartCore
always respect someone else their opinions, try to understand other peoples side of the story
i keep my psychonautic lifestyle some what secret (except for my girlfriend and a couple of my best friends know) because i know many people won't understand
but people are scared of things they don't know, anyway its my life and i do whatever i want and thats what every1 should do i think

 

[forest]

thnx^_^,

yes, i stay polite and reasonable, but it is still a pitty because they make it impossible to talk to reasonable poeple on the forum. and most of the time when they say junk or stuff, i don't care, but sometimes it just becomes too much.

fortunately the vegans are nice, and the number of reasonable people defending me is growing. yesterday evening i started the topic, and now it has 6 pages .

and i often hold propaganda to family, friends and stuff, because with every shroom i take, end every info i read, i get more enthousiastic. ofcourse i watch out to not become an extremist and stay able to respect other's opinions and not get annoying.

it's a hard world for a psychonaut...

 

[HeartCore]

fortunately the vegans are nice, and the number of reasonable people defending me is growing. yesterday evening i started the topic, and now it has 6 page

Yes, this is your confirmation, you are doing a good job! On the Walsch forum, topics about drugs become the biggest topics ever, over and over again. This is a good thing since it means there is a lot to be discussed.

Even if one person changes his/her mind over the issue, you have accomplished your mission because that means one more person that can positively influence our case (voting )

 

[Indiaan]

I talk alot about drugs to whomever wants it. My friends, people at work. people at school, etc practicly everybody knows and some oppose it others don't. If they are against it, I don't care. This is my life and I can do with it whatever I want. I try to open there mind with conversation. It's at a point now, where people ask questions in private and I'm able to help them. I had to figure out everything myself.

Only with talking we'll get understanding for what we do. And maybe I get called a junkie sometimes, I'm just glad I can help those that secretly want to try it too.