Difference between Mushrooms, Dmt, Lsa, Salvia, Dxm, Cactus?

[Djones]

Well I believe I've quite named all psychedelics!?
But what are the main differences in trips between all of these?

And in what order should you place each, from the lightest till the heaviest?

I have never done any psychedelics, but I'm about to give muhsrooms a try one of these days, but after that, I wonder which of those above stated psychedelics would be my 2dn and so on!?

 

[Maru]

and LSD ?
You also forget cannabis which is to my surprize a great psychedelic by itself.
I would say no matter the allie, what's matter is what you look for.

 

[Kwarkfanaat]

It's hard to say mate. Each person likes or dislikes their kind of drugs.

For me it would be something like (from light to heavy):

Weed/Hash
LSA
Mushrooms (philosopher stones)
Ether
Salvia
Mushrooms (columbians o.a.o.)
LSD?
Mescaline?
DMT?

Hopefully this is of some use to you. But keep in mind, these kind of things differ with each individual.

 

[Hyperion1980]

For me it is like this:

weed
mdma/mda
mushrooms
LSA (depends on quality, I took 3 and it was stronger than a mushroom trip)
Salvia
Mescaline -> not tried yet
LSD -> not tried yet
DMT -> not tried yet

remember before doing any drugs, read as much as you can about it and read also some experiences...

 

[Guest]

Mushrooms, Dmt, Lsa, Salvia, Dxm, Cac

Well I believe I've quite named all psychedelics!?

Not even close my friend, not even close


But ok, I think if you look at the potencie, LSD is by far the most potent one.
But I think mushroom trips can be stronger, because of the mood changes.
Cacti aren't infact that strong, because you need a lot of that shit to trip...

I'd say (from my list of things that I have done) strongest to weakest effect, not the potencie (how little you need to feel something):

DMT
Mushrooms
LSD
Salvia
LSA
Weed

Ether

He was talking about psychedelics, not dissociatives
But on the other hand, he has got DXM in the title....

 

[Kwarkfanaat]

He was talking about psychedelics, not dissociatives
But on the other hand, he has got DXM in the title....

Hehe and that was my point 8)

If you reply now btw; you've reached the magic 1111 number, yeah!
and if you'de done that 10minutes ago; you would have had 1111 posts at 11:11 on 11/12 ghehehe

 

[Brewmaster]

Poor timing Space.

Anyhoo, for an intro to the psychedelic world, I think shrooms are a good choice, just start low. Personally, I always liked acid better because, as Space said, mushrooms can give me weird mood shifts and paranoia out of nowhere. Didn't happen all the time, but acid was always better to me.

If you've got a strong stomach, mescaline in the form of cactus is really fun. Very good feeling, and you're still able to think clearly; but nothing can prepare you for the taste.

 

[WaseFraKa]

this kind of classifying is really not of much use. What if you ate a lot of space cake? I bet you would state that this is some heavy shit you woudn't want to have eaten.
Now if you speak of pure psychedelic effect, then it gets a little more interesting, but from my experience it still depends a lot of the dose you take.
Start with the mushies they are nice to get the feeling )
Now for the differences.....some have allready been stated between mushrooms and LSD, but another major one between these two is the duration, mushroom's effect last 4-6 hours and LSD hangs on for 8-12+ hours. Which can be very long....
DMT is one of the shortest but also one of the most intense as is salvia (but salvia I woudn't call it truly psychedelic, more of a delirium).
Check trip reports, and you'll maybe manage to find some differences yourself.
www.erowid.org is a goldmine

 

[tryptonaut]

Yeah, it all depends on the dose. I have taken small amounts of lsd when I was younger and thought I was tripping really hard. Since then I have had trips with shrooms that had been at least 10x stronger as my lsd experiences, but I'm sure with a higher amount of lsd I could get there as well.

The only thing that I'd say has the potential to be stronger than everything is dmt. I have had a smaller amount of an ayahuasca analogue (dmt+maoi) and it was already about as good as a really strong shroom trip. From what I read about smoked dmt I think it's the most intense trip you can get.

However on a really strong trip, be it on shrooms, lsd, dmt, whatever, you will always get to the point where you think you have reached the limits and it can't get any stronger and "why have I done this?"

 

[Armaros]

well i dont really consider DXM a psychedelic, its really more of a dissasociative.

well anyway this is how its been for me so far...

(from first thing ive done to the last, and ones i wish to try)

cannabis
diphenhydramine
DXM
hydrocodone
codiene
seroquel
diazapam
temezapm
xanax
clonazepam
morphine
oxycodone
Morning Glory Seeds
Datura Seeds
LSD
Nutmeg
Gabapentin
Nitrous Oxide
Salvia Divinorum
Amanitas Muscaria
MDMA
Psilocybin
(Mescaline - Yet to come)
(DMT - Yet to come)



and no doubt several others I cant even think of.

start small work your way up, I sort of worked my way up from weed to weak pharmacuticals, then to strong ones, but when I got into hallucinogens I did that in a weird order.

 

[TheeLord!]

IMHO the initial question is equivalent to:
What's the difference between a bike, a spider, a screw, a pencil, and
erbium sulfate?

 

[HeartCore]

Psilocybin, DMT -> tryptamines, more or less similar effect.

Salvia -> Savinorin A, effect differs GREATLY from tryptamines

Acid -> Also very different from the previous, some people say the effects are similar of triptamines but I dont agree with that.

DXM is a research chemical?

Cactus -> mescaline, related to amphetamines, also very different effect from the other substances.

So besides learning all these names, what is your reason to try out mushrooms?

 

[Guest]

DXM is a research chemical?

Uh? Not really, it's a cough-supressant medecine with dissociative effects at hi-doses...

I must be misunderstanding the question or missing the point, you surely do know this...

 

[HeartCore]

DXM is a research chemical?

Uh? Not really, it's a cough-supressant medecine with dissociative effects at hi-doses...

I must be misunderstanding the question or missing the point, you surely do know this...

Actually I didnt know....it never interested me so I never read up about it. Now you mention it, some click was made in my brain (aaaa yes, cough sirup).

 

[Djones]

Psilocybin, DMT -> tryptamines, more or less similar effect.

Salvia -> Savinorin A, effect differs GREATLY from tryptamines

Acid -> Also very different from the previous, some people say the effects are similar of triptamines but I dont agree with that.

DXM is a research chemical?

Cactus -> mescaline, related to amphetamines, also very different effect from the other substances.

So besides learning all these names, what is your reason to try out mushrooms?

My interest is not about learning all those names.

The reason I wanna check out mushrooms, because I'm just curious of the whole thing, especially how I will experience music during the trip.

 

[DaZeD]

From deep trip to weak ;

-DMT
-Mescaline
-Ayahuasca
-Psilocybine
-LSD (over-rated imho) even 250 mics won't take me as far as 75 grams of fresh shrooms.
-MDMA (not even a trip)

Considered as normal doses.
Offcoarse you can go furthur if you eat 5 blotters or eat 100 grams of fresh shrooms.

 

[Guest]

-LSD (over-rated imho) even 250 mics won't take me as far as 75 grams of fresh shrooms.

Errrrr, I do think that 75 fresh shrooms is quite a high dose and 250 micros g of LSD is just a mid-strong trip, so it's no wonder...

 

[HeartCore]

Errrrr, I do think that 75 fresh shrooms is quite a high dose and 250 micros g of LSD is just a mid-strong trip, so it's no wonder...
________

Depends on the mushroom. 75 liberty caps wont be as imressive as 75 panaeolus cyanescens (for example).

You cant really say that 75 mushrooms is stronger than 250mics.

 

[Guest]

My bad, I never really know of which shroom people are refering to when they talk about "fresh mushrooms" without mentionning the specy...

 

[DaZeD]

Hmm, ok, I once had a very heavy trip on 35 grams Cubensis and 35 grams mckennaii (fresh) but I must say I ate the second portion allmost at once (with lot's of coockies) + I was told once when I got some blotters it was 200 mics and that I better not take it at once because it'd be too much etc...

and the one who warned me was a very experienced user, he said he was totally blew away from that one, I did take it at once and it was nothing really mind boggeling, even took another half, I did laugh my ass off tough, but not too much visuals ... very weak visuals actually.

But it really depends wich kind of acid is in the blotter I think...
On other time's I just need 1 (dunno the amount of mics) and my world starts to move.

Still Shrooms rule Acid imho