Etherbunny
Elfe Mécanique
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I started typing this out in a previous thread, but I figured it would take the OP thread way to off topic, so I figured I'd piggy back the, 'Would you' thread with my take on jealousy, love and psychedelics. I appologize if the ending is a little abrupt, I unfortunatly suffer from unexplainable nausea and have decided not to review what I ended with and retire to bed to attempt sleep before my neighbors work crew wakes me up 6 hours before my body clock says it's morning. So enjoy and I'll attempt a follow up at a later date:
[Previously written in another post, just re-posted to not hi-jack a thread]
Jealousy is what I think causes most affairs, jealousy causes possessive feelings with can lead to control issues and the spouse tends to rebel in these situations by cheating, the them it's a way of reestablishing some degree of control.
I also think that if your in a healthy relationship that is built on a genuine connection and has a meaning full baseline/common ground, then I wouldn't see how pre-arranged 'lust' experiments/encounters could be agreed upon. 2 happy, mature adults; who are in a committed relationship; I think, could find lasting benefit from periodic indulgence in their primal needs to fornicate.
Currently, there is no real need to establish long term relationships. Taking politics and social standings out of the picture, a female Homo sapien in the current world conditions is fully capable of maturing, mating, bearing young, providing ample shelter and protection from predators without requiring a long term mate to assist or provide when she otherwise could not.
If you replace modern society and current human sociology and you reestablish the perceived 'need' for a long term mate. Humans are social, we feel compelled to connect ourselves with a mate in order to complete a primal need for acceptance and companionship. Which all stems from the only natural addiction, the brains self addiction to high concentrations of dopamine.
I know I'm just taking this waaay to far, but I finally found a topic that I actually have something intelligent to say and a view to present, so grammar be damned, spelling to, and read on if you want or skip along to a more preferred posters next comment, but I'm moving ahead.
The psychological development of love, happiness, excitement, and any other linked level of emotion; ones that bring joy-joy feelings; are nothing more than the lower more primitive portion of the brain's attempt at getting that rush of dopamine.
Basically, the process for life (in this context) is:
1. You fall in and out of lust is to get high
Outward (Social) appearance of this primitive impulse is; Dating
2. You establish a connection with someone to get high for the rest of your life.
Outward (Social) appearance of this; Marriage, Monogamous relationships
It's been proven that if a relationship is founded by a compatible pair, it is possible to evoke the same level (or very close too) the amount of dopamine that was released when you first 'fell in love'/ your brain made available to itself a suitable amount of dopamine, over the test of time, defeating 'tolerance'.
I also think this primitive addiction to dopamine is what gives psychedelics such potential to give the user such unrivaled euphoria. I personally have achieved massive amounts of euphoria from many different sources, both chemical and pharmaceutical (using erowid terms there, from there Big Chart Index) and nothing so far from the narco side to pharm side rivals the euphoric states I have achieved on something as obtainable as Salvia (not for the novice, unless it's the crap from PK), though the combination of the classic psychedelics (much research was done and much time was spend planning) have gifted me.
[Previously written in another post, just re-posted to not hi-jack a thread]
Jealousy is what I think causes most affairs, jealousy causes possessive feelings with can lead to control issues and the spouse tends to rebel in these situations by cheating, the them it's a way of reestablishing some degree of control.
I also think that if your in a healthy relationship that is built on a genuine connection and has a meaning full baseline/common ground, then I wouldn't see how pre-arranged 'lust' experiments/encounters could be agreed upon. 2 happy, mature adults; who are in a committed relationship; I think, could find lasting benefit from periodic indulgence in their primal needs to fornicate.
Currently, there is no real need to establish long term relationships. Taking politics and social standings out of the picture, a female Homo sapien in the current world conditions is fully capable of maturing, mating, bearing young, providing ample shelter and protection from predators without requiring a long term mate to assist or provide when she otherwise could not.
If you replace modern society and current human sociology and you reestablish the perceived 'need' for a long term mate. Humans are social, we feel compelled to connect ourselves with a mate in order to complete a primal need for acceptance and companionship. Which all stems from the only natural addiction, the brains self addiction to high concentrations of dopamine.
I know I'm just taking this waaay to far, but I finally found a topic that I actually have something intelligent to say and a view to present, so grammar be damned, spelling to, and read on if you want or skip along to a more preferred posters next comment, but I'm moving ahead.
The psychological development of love, happiness, excitement, and any other linked level of emotion; ones that bring joy-joy feelings; are nothing more than the lower more primitive portion of the brain's attempt at getting that rush of dopamine.
Basically, the process for life (in this context) is:
1. You fall in and out of lust is to get high
Outward (Social) appearance of this primitive impulse is; Dating
2. You establish a connection with someone to get high for the rest of your life.
Outward (Social) appearance of this; Marriage, Monogamous relationships
It's been proven that if a relationship is founded by a compatible pair, it is possible to evoke the same level (or very close too) the amount of dopamine that was released when you first 'fell in love'/ your brain made available to itself a suitable amount of dopamine, over the test of time, defeating 'tolerance'.
I also think this primitive addiction to dopamine is what gives psychedelics such potential to give the user such unrivaled euphoria. I personally have achieved massive amounts of euphoria from many different sources, both chemical and pharmaceutical (using erowid terms there, from there Big Chart Index) and nothing so far from the narco side to pharm side rivals the euphoric states I have achieved on something as obtainable as Salvia (not for the novice, unless it's the crap from PK), though the combination of the classic psychedelics (much research was done and much time was spend planning) have gifted me.
