Classic psychedelics being healther than Cannabis?
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pastyputridpulp
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On the other side THC (almost) haven't got any ld50 so maybe it doesn't feel healthy (and indeed smoking cannabis isn't) but THC can't kill you by itself. It's true that the day after use cannabis lacks that "born again" "alive" "revigorate" feelings which are common with a lot of classic psychedelics (even with substances which have moderate to low ld50 = dangerous) .
I think that the main problem with cannabis is that it's hard not to be tempted to use it daily. That's the first step to addiction and it never feels good or healthy ; the bade side of the drug slowly take the place of the good one.
I think that the main problem with cannabis is that it's hard not to be tempted to use it daily. That's the first step to addiction and it never feels good or healthy ; the bade side of the drug slowly take the place of the good one.
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The only real problem with cannabis is the lung damage from smoking it; perhaps the short term memory difficulties a day or so after use. It depends on the person, their sensitivity and how often they use it as to how much of a negative effect it gives over time.
The same goes for mushrooms; you can’t eat some daily and still get the same effects. Moderation and discipline people...
And psychosis? You don’t actually believe that do you?
The same goes for mushrooms; you can’t eat some daily and still get the same effects. Moderation and discipline people...
And psychosis? You don’t actually believe that do you?
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Cannabis is an extremely healthy herb. Yes, smoking is not recommended. Get a good electronic vaporizer, then you're fine. My memory and concentration are excellent after years of daily smoking (got the vaporizer a month ago). I don't smoke that much though, about 3 grams per month. And I keep my mental faculties sharp by reading, studying and physical exercise.
Here's something to remember when you read something about pot in the media: if the article or study uses the word Marijuana, you can be sure it was written by some government- or religion-supported organization (Marijuana was the term used for the "dangerous narcotic of the Mexicans and blacks"). For example, the Scientology rehab clinic (Narconon) has a whole list of lies on their website about "Marijuana". You can try this yourself: do a google search for Marijuana and one for Cannabis, and check out some of the websites. Of course, even some pro-cannabis folks use the term Marijuana, but actually the stoner community should disown that word.
So remember, when you read "Marijuana is bad, mmmkay?" the information is either extremely biased or downright false. If, however, the word Cannabis is used, or "cannabinoids", chances are it was written by someone with a scientific background.
If you have a MySpace page, add Jack Herer to your Friends. He's posting daily bulletins on the (medical and environmental) benefits of Cannabis. His webpage is http://www.jackherer.com.
Some important pages and videos on Cannabis can be found here: http://www.kanehbosm.nl.
Here's something to remember when you read something about pot in the media: if the article or study uses the word Marijuana, you can be sure it was written by some government- or religion-supported organization (Marijuana was the term used for the "dangerous narcotic of the Mexicans and blacks"). For example, the Scientology rehab clinic (Narconon) has a whole list of lies on their website about "Marijuana". You can try this yourself: do a google search for Marijuana and one for Cannabis, and check out some of the websites. Of course, even some pro-cannabis folks use the term Marijuana, but actually the stoner community should disown that word.
So remember, when you read "Marijuana is bad, mmmkay?" the information is either extremely biased or downright false. If, however, the word Cannabis is used, or "cannabinoids", chances are it was written by someone with a scientific background.
If you have a MySpace page, add Jack Herer to your Friends. He's posting daily bulletins on the (medical and environmental) benefits of Cannabis. His webpage is http://www.jackherer.com.
Some important pages and videos on Cannabis can be found here: http://www.kanehbosm.nl.
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It doesn't. But it's true that some folks with a psychosis have a history of cannabis use. There's no causal connection, other than that people with a latent psychosis tend to use/abuse lots of cannabis, and other drugs. I know someone with schizophrenia who smokes a lot of cannabis (and drinks alcohol in excess), and I'm sure some of you know people like that. People with weak social skills (common among people with mental disorders) will often smoke lots of cannabis, but the cannabis use is not the cause of their problem, rather the result. When they then snap and become psychotic or schizophrenic ignorant parents and doctors may blame the cannabis, but there's no scientific reason for that. The foundations for mental disorders are usually laid down in early childhood, not in the teenage stoner period. And in the ultimate analysis it's usually the parents/ grandparents/ great-grandparents/ community that is to blame, not the person's stoner friends, or their smoking habits.
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Some people are extremely sensible to cannabis, and a single hit will give them a one week long trip... Not a psychosis, but neither a normal trip...
Otherwise, I think that the major problem with cannabis is that most people smoke it mixed with tobacco...
Tobacco totally ruins the psychedelic part of the experience, and is not exactly healthy (not to mention the fact that it could turn you into an addict)...
Otherwise, I think that the major problem with cannabis is that most people smoke it mixed with tobacco...
Tobacco totally ruins the psychedelic part of the experience, and is not exactly healthy (not to mention the fact that it could turn you into an addict)...
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I sport at quite a high level and smoking (pure) is a big no no for me! I already notice the decrease of my endurance after smoking 2 pipes in the weekend.
It causes gynomastic appearances around the nipple.
It makes the skin less elastic and dries it out.
Mixing it with tobacco causes bloodvessel expanding and narrows them as well. Which is a total waste of your weed.
Though my experiences with oral doses are totally a contrary. There are no physical side effects noticeable, and mentally the effects last for about 10 hours when consumed enough.
THC clamps itself to animal fat, so make sure when consumed orally to add a lot of butter and fats.
And yeah, Acid, DMT/Aya, Mushies, Mesca are defintely healthier.
It causes gynomastic appearances around the nipple.
It makes the skin less elastic and dries it out.
Mixing it with tobacco causes bloodvessel expanding and narrows them as well. Which is a total waste of your weed.
Though my experiences with oral doses are totally a contrary. There are no physical side effects noticeable, and mentally the effects last for about 10 hours when consumed enough.
THC clamps itself to animal fat, so make sure when consumed orally to add a lot of butter and fats.
And yeah, Acid, DMT/Aya, Mushies, Mesca are defintely healthier.
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DMT healthier then Cannabis? I think smoking pure DMT isn't healthier then smoking pure weed. It's just that you don't smoke pure DMT that often..and alot of people do smoke cannabis on a daily basis..
Or am I totally wrong about this?
Or am I totally wrong about this?
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I don't think it's really possible to compare dmt and cannabis in this way, simply because there is alot less known about DMT.
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It's hard to smoke hashish without tobacco, so people got used to it and also smoke weed with tobacco, I guess. With potent weed you need something to mix it with or your joints will be extremely small.
And, in the end - it's the nicotine kicks. Smoke a bong with tobacco and you'll see what the nicotine does... smoking a bong with 1/2 and 1/2 weed/tobacco has made me so addicted to nicotine like no cigarette could ever have.
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In fact, if you want to experience the biggest nicotine hit, try smoking a pure cone/bowl full of tobacco and see what happens; I was doing this every morning and night for about 4 months of the year last year and it only showed me more how bad commercial tobacco really is in every sense. The addiction is the icing on the cake.
People mix it because it helps with the initial hit of cannabinoid’s to the brain because of the constriction the nicotine exerts on the blood vessels. But really, its totally unneeded an pointless to do so; it just becomes the addiction itself and you smoke bongs to get that nicotine hit more than the THC, which becomes a side serving, although a pleasurable one.
This coupled with the action of smoking a cone in one hit, like the action of taking a drag on a cigarette, makes it one more pleasure activation that all contributes to the addiction to smoking itself. It’s not the cannabis at all.
That’s why I have stoped smoking, even buds and bongs; because I’m quitting using the commercial tobacco (350+ additives and radioactivity just aren’t my idea of fun anymore).
I'm just going to vaporise hash through a pipe or modified bong for maximum high and minimum if any damage to my body. That and make lots of baked goods
Just go Neolithic and eat it!
People mix it because it helps with the initial hit of cannabinoid’s to the brain because of the constriction the nicotine exerts on the blood vessels. But really, its totally unneeded an pointless to do so; it just becomes the addiction itself and you smoke bongs to get that nicotine hit more than the THC, which becomes a side serving, although a pleasurable one.
This coupled with the action of smoking a cone in one hit, like the action of taking a drag on a cigarette, makes it one more pleasure activation that all contributes to the addiction to smoking itself. It’s not the cannabis at all.
That’s why I have stoped smoking, even buds and bongs; because I’m quitting using the commercial tobacco (350+ additives and radioactivity just aren’t my idea of fun anymore).
I'm just going to vaporise hash through a pipe or modified bong for maximum high and minimum if any damage to my body. That and make lots of baked goods
Just go Neolithic and eat it!
