Change in effects after years have past

[Brugmansia]

Who still experiences gigling, increased appetite, laughing, critical thinking, getting confronted etc?

I don't know, but all I feel nowadays are merely thoughts that go a bit further than usual, sometimes hardly even expanded. Despite the fact that it's good weed, I never seem to get the good old days.

I even thought about abandoning it because it's not worth the dry throat and body relaxtion. I also can't sleep at all when the effects haven't wored off completely.

And right after I have smoked, I always wonder why I did. For the record I already depleted my use from every entire weekends (2004) to once a month or less till now. 2006 once every two weeks. 2007 once a month, now even less.

 

[Rymmen]

I find weed to be a little underthrilling, even mass amounts once a month just doesn't really cut it for personal growth or discovery. I too find myself wondering why I smoke weed after I do it, and it makes me feel addicted.

I don't really smoke weed at all anymore.

 

[BrainEater]

hehe i wanted to stop a week ago on sunday, but then i saw the thread by caduceus "Happy 4/20" .. that was when i thought i could not stop on that day and went straight go the park to get some :weedman:

lol and unfortunately i didn't manage to stop smokin durin the week as well although i didnt spent money on it (errm except of the HUGE pack of weed i got from the boyfriend of my sister of deluxe weed for really low price)... but i am confident for my next try which started yesterday

despite many others for me it's like i could smoke weed all the time and i still can enjoy it. the bad thing is that i probably need more weed to get higher and the vast expense on money! but i noticed a bit the effect too, that it sometimes gets a bit boring because theres a routine somewhere already... so thats why i am stopping to smoke or to smoke that frequently... also what you say the spontaneous laughing i dont have so much anymore on weed, its a bit like i have evolved a bit in my way of being stoned hehe!! but i'd find it cool to evolve backwards a bit in some aspects like the laughing thing!

if i just had my own plant!!! that would be just so cool!! it would be the perfect smokemate lol!

peace.

 

[Lion]

Brugmansia, stop smoking it for a week or 2.
When you start smoking again you'll notice why i said to stop smoking for 2 weeks

 

[buffachino]

Seriously, if you stop for just a week, then smoke again, you get an astonishing reappraisal of the psychedelic power of cannabis, which seems to get drowned out with the mundane ennui that bleeds into the experience from constant usage.

Any regularity and your inhibitory system gets into a rhythm, and the state of consensus reality and the psychoanalytic mind of cannabis merge into a kind of lethargic indulgence in ones apathy, that doesn’t do justice to the substance.

It’s easy for those who are somewhat hedonistic to fall into a routine of use that can bring on this effect; so regular abstinence is a good thing to exercise.

Although I must say, its hard for me sometimes. :smoke:

Peace.

 

[????????]

Hahah yeah man, stop for a week and then post back

 

[jj]

I've been there. I've been smoking Cannabis for 35 years, but not steadily. I have been through what you've been through, or at least something that matches the description you give. Definitely. And more than once.

I think it comes down to attitude.

Taking a break can help, but it really isn't about the lapse of time, about some change in brain chemistry, although such things can be part of the picture. At root, it's all about attitude.

We can never go back to ignorance, the state we were in before we tried Cannabis, but we can return to innocence. Once upon a time, everything was new, a surprise. Then, we came to expect certain things. Habitual actions and expectations made us old, and we lost the spontaneity of childlike wonder. Rather than getting presents like children, we became like grownups who buy things and have expectations of the things we buy. But what have we bought into? The notion that happiness is contained in things, that you can buy it, rather than discovering it in spontaneous experience.

You don't have to fool yourself to be innocent again. It's just a re-setting of the attitude.

It's like with a lover. You can let the relationship get stale, or you can treat every moment with them as a new discovery. And the nice thing about Cannabis is that she's more patient than people who expect you to fulfill their needs. She'll wait in the drawer until you're ready to play.

:wink:

 

[BrainEater]

hey thanks for that good posts! you are right!! i will also post when i have got over a week but i am confident hehe although yesterday on the beach i took some puffs, after three days of not smoking.

jj you are so right!

peace.

 

[Brugmansia]

Nice post JJ.

I already smoked once a month for about a year but ignorance is a good phrase, I think. Or weed naive.

When I started with having a toke years ago there was this feeling of excitement everytime before I'd inhale. Laughing about nothing with friends, feeling relaxed and eating lots of food, extended fantasized thoughts, some hyper sensations.

Nowadays it's works way more phsysical and mentally it's nothing like the good old beginning. I stay just as serious as when being sober. Even when I hadn't smoked for yonks.

 

[st.bot.32]

Interesting, I notice the same thing, although every so often I have a nice surprise toking session that totally floors me. This usually happens when I try a different kind of weed, or a good, FRESH, strong (mostly sativa) strain... and have a good mckenna style session..

If you haven't, maybe try the oral method of taking cannabis, it is quite a different feeling!

It's true though, less is always more. Funny how the body adapts.

 

[HappyMind]

Who still experiences gigling, increased appetite, laughing, critical thinking, getting confronted etc?

I don't know, but all I feel nowadays are merely thoughts that go a bit further than usual, sometimes hardly even expanded. Despite the fact that it's good weed, I never seem to get the good old days.

I even thought about abandoning it because it's not worth the dry throat and body relaxtion. I also can't sleep at all when the effects haven't wored off completely.

And right after I have smoked, I always wonder why I did. For the record I already depleted my use from every entire weekends (2004) to once a month or less till now. 2006 once every two weeks. 2007 once a month, now even less.

It seems like you are really abusing the substance.
Quit with it for a couple of months. Weeks aren't enough to get it fully out of your system.

If you feel like smoking again after a couple of months, then you can try it again.
But beware, if you're used to smoke it excessively, you can easily turn back in old habits, it can go faster than you think.

 

[druglessdouglas]

good advise all round. ive stopped smoking sheesh and stick to good weed. where i live good weed is as rare as teeth on a duck so i have huge breaks(months) although "a friend" grows 1 or 2 crops a year and only my favourite brands. my "friend" is always secretly pleased when it runs out

 

[psm]

I do have a theory on that matter, that goes a little bit into the metaphysical works of the brain.

First of all, it really depends why you are using it. Most smokers do it out of habit, but not for special reasons.

I use it to achive a certain level of creativity, relaxation and mind-drift when I am working on some stuff. I love to utelise it in conversations.

I don't use it just for getting wasted. And I really don't need a lot either. My consumption varies a lot. From a couple of small joints, to a big one, over many days or weeks without any of it.

When I was younger, I used to smoke quiet a lot. Until two things happened.
I realised, that the first thing in the morning was a joint. For no apparent reason.
And I had a spontanous pneumo thorax (by accident) without noticing it for a long time - what happens is, that air flows into the space between your lungs and you chest. Usually there is a vaccum, that makes you inhale (we inhale passivly and exhale actively by compressing the phrenic - solar plaxus area).
Since I did not know, it really felt weird when I was stoned. I had several very hard panic attacks while being stoned and these bad trips still haunt me after 10 years - there are still occasions when my lung area feels weird - wich is of course subconcesly accociated with thos bad trips.


So I stopped for some years and it took me about 5 years until I could enjoy a hit or two - thanks to my aussie-friends, which helped me alot in '99, while I was living in Aire, picking Pumpkins and Watermellons.



My personal theory has to do with what THC does. As mentioned it opens your mind. But to what extend? I think that we walk through life and collect information, that is processed in our brain. Up to an amount, we are capable of, depending on where we stand in our personal developement and evolution.
After 20 years of self-exploration one starts to be aware of most things anyway. You don't need any substance to help you process information in an prior unusual way, because you allready do it.
So the amount of information-processing, that makes use of THCs power is reducing.
But if you stop for a week, or two, you will have collected a little pile, which might again use the effects of THC, thus giving you the known experience.

If you smoke every day, you are so used to process the small amount of information, that you don't realise it. But it is still there...

You can try by stimulating your brain. Do stuff, you usually don't. Talk a walk, read a difficult book, do some arts, whatever might trigger the information collection and raises the amount of it...
Then you will see, that the effect is still there, but you just didn't noticed it, because you are used to the low-level-processing allready.



And then of course the sort of weed is important
Try switching a little bit...

 

[st.bot.32]

You can try by stimulating your brain. Do stuff, you usually don't. Talk a walk, read a difficult book, do some arts, whatever might trigger the information collection and raises the amount of it...
Then you will see, that the effect is still there, but you just didn't noticed it, because you are used to the low-level-processing allready.

I think there is something to that. When you get high too often I guess, and often in the same place, you somehow tune out the cannabis thought patterns, even though they are still there, there's no new information or anything new to react to.. Doing creative things and new things while high really brings out those amazing thought patterns!

I guess some people really are cannabis hardheads as well. Weed totally floors me, I've had my share of acid trips and pretty decent mushroom trips and several of my oral cannabis trips have absolutely been up there if not more intense in some ways (breaking down of ego, full visuals and CEV, time granulating etc)...

I recently had one of those bad weed trips, a trip that otherwise should have been amazing but I was handling it completely wrong the whole time, basically ignoring all the above advice. As opposed to the time previous to the bad trip when I had tried making music all evening on a tracker program.. which was just an awesome experience.