Can I eat these 3 peyote?

[lucifer1982]

I have one question :

I want Harvest 3 peyotes (sie pic), they al are about 16 years (strong roots), Can I have a strong trip?
Who can give me a good advise.

I have 2 times trides san pedro, unfortunetly without results. I only became very sick. I had made a thee from them (40 cm).

I want to know if 3 peyotes would be strong Enough to have a Mescaline-Experience.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

U have not been "THE" only one with such disappointed result with San Pedro or San Torch cacti! Maybe U haven't cook them right, maybe they aren't Pedro's, or something else like early cutting without roots properly grown. Many reasons can come out of this disappointment! Fuck it! :wink:

U sad that Peyos on this picture have 16 years? OK, maybe. But they aren't from same "family". Two of them can be from same sub-sub-strain.
But third one isn't. Left one. I can say that he looks to me like Lophophora Diffusa! Small, sturdy, little or no tufts, also tufts are "hard". Color is slightly to yellowish. Very distinctive look like L.diffusa! But also this doesn't need to mean that cacti is diffusa. I once also had similar Peyo. He actually sucked color from clay soil!! Unbelievably, YES! Tell me is that cacti on left side hard as stone? And others wile we talking bout it?
Probably they will not be sufficient for "right" cacti "voyage", but significant effect will come out of them. Maybe even strong ones! This is hard to say when we talk bout Peyo.
Tell me where they have been all this years? At your house, shop, grower? Which way or what kind of treatment U have done to them past time? How much water, "food", hot air and strong UV Sun light past years?

Peace
Light
Love
Bless

 

[lucifer1982]

Someone have give them to me. They have been in a green-house for about 8 years. They are about 12, 15? years?
I give them water,, wheb they feel soft...
I can wait untill sumer,, would that be better?

I have wash de top of these with spiritus?? because I wanted to destory some bugs?
The peyotes seems to be damaged??

Shall they Contains enough mescaline for one person?

 

[user_1919]

As Goran will tell you, homegrown mescaline cacti just aren't the same. I would treasure those people as sacred cacti, never eat them, and fly down to mexico and find a peyote shaman. Homegrown cacti do not contain high enough concentrations of mescaline to allow you access into the spirit world. Unless you really know how to grow them and recreate how they are grown in nature, which to me is fundamentally impossible. Nature has a special way of doing it, in which mescaline is produced at a higher rate. I experienced this first hand. A homegrown San Pedro; I ate over a foot of it, hardly nothing. The concentrations were to low to feel anything.

peace & love

 

[Brugmansia]

I don't understand that whole cooking part. Just dry two foots of San Pedro and swallow the dried parts (which you should make as small as possible) with juice on an empty stomach.

It's true that it comes nowhere to a spiritual world or 3 day experience, but at least it produced very decent effects with a certain ego dissolution to me. And the experiences have left a similar to milder mark on me which I had gotten from my 1st acid trip a well. Although I'm sure a full cacti trip will exceed acid by far.

It's so hard to get enough in your system to achieve level 5, lots of very potent cacti should be obtained for it.

What you need is this:

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Is that "progressive" trance? Sounds like ambiental-classic trance. Progressive have higher bit and amplitude of acid spikes on equalizer.

 

[Psychoid]

Is that "progressive" trance? Sounds like ambiental-classic trance. Progressive have higher bit and amplitude of acid spikes on equalizer.

I think you posted in the wrong thread?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Is that "progressive" trance? Sounds like ambiental-classic trance. Progressive have higher bit and amplitude of acid spikes on equalizer.

I think you posted in the wrong thread?

Yes and no :wink:
Pick progressive on Brugmansia "final words or links"

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

This hasn't been no offense to U my friend Brugmansia! Never! (are U Datura or not? ) Another joke. I should pay something on my account. Or U can? I am gladly asking some!

Peace
Light
Love
Bless

 

[ziggysage]

As Goran will tell you, homegrown mescaline cacti just aren't the same. I would treasure those people as sacred cacti, never eat them, and fly down to mexico and find a peyote shaman. Homegrown cacti do not contain high enough concentrations of mescaline to allow you access into the spirit world. Unless you really know how to grow them and recreate how they are grown in nature, which to me is fundamentally impossible. Nature has a special way of doing it, in which mescaline is produced at a higher rate. I experienced this first hand. A homegrown San Pedro; I ate over a foot of it, hardly nothing. The concentrations were to low to feel anything.

peace & love

Interesting you should say that... All my experiences have been from homegrown san pedro cacti, and they have all been very powerful. Could it be that you just happened to have a very low potency cactus?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

U live in New Zealand? Yes? Where, which part? In warmer northern parts or cooler southern?
Also can U tell me average temp for all four seasons (each for themselves) and if U have some time also temp and sun days per month (also in which month "how much"). :?:

If I remember right northern parts are like Mediterranean climate? Never temp under 10°C and over 40°C. Always somewhere from 18-28°C?

Sun rays and warm weather is main factor for success!

 

[ziggysage]

Oh dear, I had my first disappointing experience today. Drank juice yielded from a fat foot-long cutting and results were minimal. Last time, I had an intense spiritually enlightening experience. This time, I had a pleasant buzzing in my chest and slightly enhanced mental clarity. Guess it was a dud cactus. How can I avoid disappointment in the future, o wise Goran?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Oh dear, I had my first disappointing experience today. Drank juice yielded from a fat foot-long cutting and results were minimal. Last time, I had an intense spiritually enlightening experience. This time, I had a pleasant buzzing in my chest and slightly enhanced mental clarity. Guess it was a dud cactus. How can I avoid disappointment in the future, o wise Goran?

Have U mail me question bout cacti potency recognition?

 

[Cannafarmer]

I'm not in for cacti (yet)

I once consumed about 600 grams of fresh San Pedro.
£It was the grossest I ever had to swallow!
My stomache was just full of slime and I was disgusted by it.
Didn't bark though!
But the effects were very very very very minimal!

Later on I wished I had dried it out... But if I ever consider on doing mescaline, I'll go to a smartshop who sells some descent mescaline powder underneath the counter.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Why after so many bad endings and unhappy stories people still eat Pedro raw? HELL IF I KNOW!
Peyote is !THE CACTI! which is eaten cause it is used like that and in such eating ritual way used for thousands and thousands of years in Middle and South America.

 

[ziggysage]

Oh dear, I had my first disappointing experience today. Drank juice yielded from a fat foot-long cutting and results were minimal. Last time, I had an intense spiritually enlightening experience. This time, I had a pleasant buzzing in my chest and slightly enhanced mental clarity. Guess it was a dud cactus. How can I avoid disappointment in the future, o wise Goran?

Have U mail me question bout cacti potency recognition?

Yep, that was me

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

And what U think bout facts that I give U? Also If U need more advices just ask me. I don't mind.

Hope that U have some kind of opinion and vision what to do in future?
But is vision is still blurry ask me and I will try to help U. By the way, I have only three times "voyaged" on Pedro. Peyote is cacti with question in him. No chance for me and U to be disappointed.

 

[ziggysage]

Very helpful. My first voyage on San Pedro was really good, but I now realize I could have made it so much more powerful. I plan on having a much stronger trip next time using the info you've given me.

One other question - I came across a source which said that freezing sections of San Pedro for several hours, then grinding into a pulp and straining the juice, yielded a more effective dose than blending, boiling and straining. The source said that freezing succeeds in breaking down epidermal cells like boiling does, but it doesn't reduce the effectiveness of alkaloids like high temperatures might.

How does that sound?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I tried it once and no effect. Maybe u can mix those two procedures into one? I alway cook my cacti. Peruvian shamans do this hell know how many years. So freezing instead cook? Try, U can loose some change and thats it, OK also little time. But in material world only change.

U know what is right. Decide by yourself and ask man who done it with super effects what U need to do. Otherwise fuck that.

 

[ziggysage]

Ok, I'll freeze the cactus, for several hours to break down cells, THEN boil. Hopefully the mescaline will be released much faster. I'll post if it is effective.