Can anyone speak/translate swedish ?

[GOD]

A new article appeared on pubmed. It is in swedish but the translated title is:

Bromo-dragon fly--life-threatening drug. Can cause tissue necrosis as demonstrated by the first described case

Someone who has journal access and can read swedish might want to check it out:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18522262

 

[Forkbender]

IMPORTANT!

No swedes here?

 

[GOD]

But a Fork has just surfaced after his trek to the south . What happened and wheres the fotos ?

 

[Forkbender]

^I'll post a *trip* report later.

 

[Dooe]

I can translate as soon as I figure out how to read the article.

Dang, you need journal access, well if someone who has can copy and paste I could translate.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Dang, you need journal access

I registered (takes 2 minutes) but couldn't find the article anymore. Maybe you can find it here?
http://www.lakartidningen.se/

Here's what Wikipedia says about the substance:

History

Bromo-DragonFLY was first synthesized by Matthew A. Parker in the laboratory of David E. Nichols in 1998.

Pharmacology

The hallucinogenic effect of bromo-DragonFLY is mediated by its agonist activity at the 5-HT2A serotonin receptor. Bromo-DragonFLY also has a high binding affinity for the 5-HT2B and 5-HT2C serotonin receptors.

Dosage

The typical dose of Bromo-DragonFLY is not known, however it has varied from 500 ?g to 1 mg.[1] It has about 300 times the potency of mescaline, or 1/5th the potency of LSD. It has been sold in the form of blotters, similar to the distribution method of LSD, which has led to confusion, and reports of mistakenly consuming Bromo-DragonFly. It has a much longer duration of action than LSD and can last for up to 2-3 days[1] following a single large dose, with a slow onset of action that can take up to 6 hours before the effects are felt.

Toxicity

The toxicity of Bromo-DragonFLY is unknown for humans however at least three reports of death believed to be resulted from Bromo-DragonFLY have been reported in Norway[3], Sweden[4] and Denmark[5]

Also, a Swedish man had to have the front part of his feet and several fingers on one hand amputated after taking a massive overdose. Apparently the compound acted as a long-acting efficacious vasoconstrictor, leading to necrosis and gangrene which was delayed by several weeks after the overdose occurred. Several other cases have also been reported of severe peripheral vasoconstriction following overdose with Bromo-DragonFLY, and a similar case is also known from DOB. Treatment was of limited efficacy in this case although tolazoline is reportedly an effective treatment where available.[6][7]

Overdoses, disturbing experiences, and Bromo-DragonFLY associated health problems have been described. One case in 2008 in England involved inhalation of vomit, causing nearly fatal asphyxia.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromo-DragonFLY

 

[Forkbender]

link to the article

No need to register.

 

[Dooe]

I'll get right to translating tomorrow, My day day ends early so no problems there.

 

[GOD]

Thanks Dooe . Please dont make yourself loads of work . I`m sure its not a neutral report , so if you read it and its obviously biased or anti drug propoganda please just say that and dont bother translating the whole thing . Thanks .

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Swedish isn't that hard to understand. Seems I can understand most sentences. But it's late, I'm high on Kanna and got some other things to do now. Thanks for the link Fork, and thanks for offering to translate Dooe!

 

[Meduzz]

I`m sure its not a neutral report

Based on what? Don't forget it's a research chemical, so very little is known abouth the substance. Especially this substance, where the phenethylamine skeleton is substituted with 2 extra ring structures, which can change the properties of a chemical drastically. The reported incidents were also an indicator. And why would anti-drug propaganda target such a rare molecule?

Not being offensive, but enlighten me :idea:

 

[BrainEater]

because this substance is seeming to be a drug.... with not the best 'possible' side-effects like tissue-necrosis ????

 

[Dooe]

Bromodragonfly – life threatening abuse substance

Can give tissue damage, shows the first described cases-

They say in the first bit that Google searches shows an increased interest in this drug and that the required doses are very small. Symptoms shows up after 20-90 minuets and last up to a day.

They go on with a case report where a 35 yearold cannabis user takes BDF with a friend and cant remember what happened. He doesn’t remember the dose they took and when his brother found him they also found the friend dead in another room.

Then they continue with what they gave him at the hospital and that he will be severely handicapped because of extensive damage in his extremities. As you can see in the photos of his hand, the second one is after the operation.

In the discussion they refer to the internet forum flashback where people who discussed this are certain that they miscalculated the dosage. The dose needed for vessel contraction in extremities is somewhere around 2,5-3 mg BDF. Active dosage is about 0,5-1,5mg



Didnt perceive the article as propaganda, some useful information at what levels it becomes dangerous. There have been just one or two other cases of this in sweden I think and they say that the toxic reception line has received 32 calls from people who has taken BDF and started to notice that their hands
and feet has started to go cold.


What I'm more interested in is when they will wake up and realize that if they legalized say LSD people wouldnt go to such lengths and try RCs that could potentially kill them.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

What I'm more interested in is when they will wake up and realize that if they legalized say LSD people wouldnt go to such lengths and try RCs that could potentially kill them.

Yes!! I thought the same thing yesterday.

If they'd legalize LSD, MDMA, DMT, psilocybine and cannabis, hardly anyone would care for unhealthy herbals or designer drugs.

About the Swedish deaths, I read that these guys simply placed the tip of their fingers in a bag of Dragonfly and then ingested what was on it.

 

[GOD]

The idea for the thread came months ago . There were 2 other threads that were about or mentioned the drug . I did a bit of looking around in the internet for more information and found the swedish reports . I found several reports in the net that said the original paper was not convincing and that it probably reflected the swedish government drug policy . And that the swedish study was the most severe viewpoint of all the studys up till now . I cant remember the details or where i found the follow up reports .

From reading the translation from Dooe . Thanks Dooe

Exactly how much did they take ? How did they take it ? Was the drug pure ? What has the fact that someone uses cannabis got to do with anything ? How exactly did the friend die ? Is it safe to make any conclusions from 2 badly documented cases ? Is it right to critisise a drug because someone takes a 5 times overdose ?

But thats why research chemicals are called research chemicals because you are doing research with your bodys , senses and lives . In my opinion only fools do that .

Mushrooms grow everwhere , and they , LSD , Ayahuasca , cannabis and mescaline have been proven to be safe . ( Exept for self diagnosing hyperchondriac HPPD victims ) .

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Exactly how much did they take ? How did they take it ?

"Ståhl could not say how much they had taken. Erowid has received an unconfirmed report that they may have measured the dose by licking a fingertip and dipping it into a bag of bromo-dragonfly powder. If this is correct, this would probably deliver a dose many times greater than the threshold of activity, which is reported to be less than one milligram."
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bromo_dragonfly/bromo_dragonfly_death3.shtml

 

[GOD]

JFC , when i think about how much coke i could get on a wet finger my mind boggles !!!!!!!

So another reason for legalisation and controle - that idiots dont do mega overdoses . That they are taught in school the truthes about drugs so that they use them with knowledge and respect .