Binaural beats and other external brain stimului

[xonar]

Has anyone ever experimented with binaural beats or any other external brain stimuli in conjunction with a psychoactive substance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamachine

SWIM has become very interested in this after having the most intense psychedelic experience of his life last night (lots of 40x Salvia in a large water-pipe). Which was "like" his previous acid trip but condensed down into 10 minutes times 50 (AKA, nothing in common).

SWIM read that certain techniques can induce psychedelic effects even on both a sober and an untrained mind (no experience in meditation). It makes one wonder how this could affect a psychedelic trip.

SWIM plans on a "highly scientific" experiment involving his $130 stereo DJ headphones (Awesome bass response) with some sample binaural beats he found on the internets, possibly creating a dream machine as linked above, relaxing in an old recliner, and inducing a psychedelic state whether it be with the intensely terrifying Lady Salvia, or some nice mushies. Cannabis usage will most likely occur beforehand, SWIM had a rather unpleasant ego-death last time that involved him rampaging around the room karate chopping his belongings with vigor, so hopefully the cannabis will calm things down a bit.

Thoughts? Questions?

 

[druglessdouglas]

ive done some experiments along these lines and using glasses with led's built in and a programmable controlls"i cant remember what they are called" alongside big doses of lsd. it was interesting and amusing as it did effect the experience but i was never sure what the effect was. pretty patterns realy and some diferent states of mind but nothing i could ever put my finger on.
its worth experiencing

 

[GOD]

Brain machines is something else to look up in the net to give an idea of what you are talking about .

The ones you can use / hear on the net dont work . Music ones on cds dont work either as they have to be mixed with eye stimulation . You have to have a machine and there are two types . Real ones that are very expensive and cheep ones that dont work .

That came from a consumer test TV programm where they did scientific tests with all the types of brain machine available .

 

[magickmumu]

I have tried some brainwave machine software from the net. It never worked for me.
I tried them sober and after smoking Ganja.

 

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[GOD]

Personaly i try to get objective , neutral information and not believe comercial adverts in the media .

 

[st.bot.32]

The thing is, on enough cannabis any sort of pulse or repeating light/strobe trips me the fuck out anyway.

Find yourself an old version of cooledit pro (like version 1 or something on bit torrent) it has a binaural beat generator built it. much cheaper if you want to play around and experiment with binaural beats!

IMO these devices really have less to do with directly changing your brainwaves and more to do with self-induced trance (for which you really don't need the devices, minimalist music, some IDM works far better for me anyday). If they really did change brainwaves, you could crank the setting and use them as a substitute for amphetamines when you need to stay awake..

 

[xonar]

IMO, even if the correct equipment to effectively make a brain machine is out of our grasp, there would still be SOME response to a properly created binaural beat if not only because of the placebo effect. It is to my understanding that even without the properly synced eye stimulus one would still experience an effect to some degree especially with the aid of psychedelics. I know that personally even the smallest change to the environment can alter a trip significantly.

I'm thinking that when I get my new apartment next month that I will create a "trip machine". Nothing fancy, just like a recliner that is underneath a dome made of wire and a couple sheets attached to it like a tent. Maybe even use a small tent to fit the recliner. And have flashing LEDs or christmas lights strung around the exterior. This all coupled with some crazy ambient electronic music playing in the background. Another thing that was super crazy, was that of N2O. Having 2 30g tanks of that on new years and a private band performance in a large apartment. After they played people got ahold of a microphone and ran it through an echo pedal and it was one of the craziest things ever on N2O due to the auditorial hallucinations.

 

[GOD]

Everthing we do/think changes our brain waves . The thing about good brain machinesis that they realy do get the brain on a particular frequency .

i used to have a session once a week and it realy relaxed me , but not more . I felt like i had done a whole mornings meditation after 1 hour on the machine .

I can imagine that coupled with a trip it could be an interesting experience .

 

[st.bot.32]

Interesting, out of curiosity do you know what kind of brainwave machine you were using?

 

[GOD]

No . It was a long time ago when they first came out . Probably at the end of the 80s . It had a pair of glasses that had flashing lcds and a pair of headphones that played a beep noise . At the start the beeps sounded out of sync and after a few minutes they started to sound like one beep . The machine was advertised and recomended by a guy called Werner Pieper . Maybe we could look in the net and find more information .

 

[GOD]

OK . The thing i was using was called a mind machine not a brain machine . If you can read german there is something interesting about it here . If you google werner pieper and/or mind machine you will find something in english .