Applied Pressure

[FluidDruid]

Applied pressure to the eyes when closed create amazing visuals, but why? Are all of the rods pushed away revealing the fovea where all of your cone receptors reside? I am bewildered about this. Last night I had smoked 3 bowls of a new strain of cannabis I had received. Much more potent than what I had previously had. I layed down covered my eyes so they couldn't even pick up one quanta of light. I applied very light pressure to my eyes. After about 10-15 minutes I was seeing INCREDIBLE visions. I was seeing full colored objects, I had the experience of the color fully. I saw red, green, orange, turquoise, and many others. I got to a point where my field of "vision" was completely enveloped into what seemed to be something like a Buddhist mandala or some type of tribal artwork, they were working as gears of some sort, and occasionally some type of light would emerge from behind them, as if there was another dimension to what I was looking at, as if these gears of sorts were like a glass window that I was trying to look through. Eventually a playful light kept appearing behind different locations and eventually beaming through with great intensity, as if it were an intelligent entity. I had total control over my breath as it helped me focus on the experience. I opened my eyes, and noticed that everything around me was waving as if I had taken a low dosage of psilocybe. My explanation is that maybe: Applied pressure to the eyes moves the rod receptors out of the way and to the back so your v1 visual center is focusing on the center where your Fovea resides with all of your cone receptors. Cone receptors are why we can see color, and the Fovea is where we do all of our Focusing, ie. Reading this paragraph your using your fovea. Perhaps my mind was simply trying to make sense of all of this by filling in the blanks and thus creating the visuals.

There may already be a very simple answer for this, I don't know. I couldn't find anything on the net about it, and I am still extremely impressed with the experience I had. Do comment! I'd like to get to the bottom of this!

 

[GOD]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entoptic_phenomenon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palinopsia

 

[FluidDruid]

Very interesting, but it still does not give a good explanation. I want to get to the bottom of this, not the center. How aoout summoning objects without any applied pressure to the eyes. I would look this up myself but I have to goto work now, thanks for the reply. More needed!

EDIT: Quote "The shaman would retreat into the darkness of the caves, enter into a trance state and then paint images of their visions, perhaps with some notion of drawing power out of the cave walls themselves. This goes some way toward explaining the remoteness of some of the paintings (which often occur in deep or small caves) and the variety of subject matter (from prey animals to predators and human hand-prints)." on Neolithic cave paintings.

Gotta go now, peace!

 

[druglessdouglas]

Very interesting, but it still does not give a good explanation. I want to get to the bottom of this, not the center. How aoout summoning objects without any applied pressure to the eyes. I would look this up myself but I have to goto work now, thanks for the reply. More needed!

EDIT: Quote "The shaman would retreat into the darkness of the caves, enter into a trance state and then paint images of their visions, perhaps with some notion of drawing power out of the cave walls themselves. This goes some way toward explaining the remoteness of some of the paintings (which often occur in deep or small caves) and the variety of subject matter (from prey animals to predators and human hand-prints)." on Neolithic cave paintings.

Gotta go now, peace!

my first home away from my parents i painted all the walls of my bedroom like that. usually on LSD or shrooms. it was like painting by numbers, painting what you see. the hard bit was getting it to hold still. it was mainly celtic knotwork, i love that stuff and see it in every shroom trip

does the pressure on the eye stimulate the nerve directly i wonder

 

[GOD]

Yes .

 

[druglessdouglas]

makes sense. ive noticed it myself but i dont like to mess with my eyes in case i detach a retina. did it a lot as a child though

 

[Carebear]

Wow i just tried this... nice visuals indeed :!:

 

[FluidDruid]

Wow i just tried this... nice visuals indeed :!:

bravo!

 

[GOD]

The first person that says its HPPD is a dickhead .

 

[druglessdouglas]

Highly Probable Poking Disorder

 

[GOD]

How People Project Disorders

 

[druglessdouglas]

Hello People Please Desist

rubbing your eyes to see pretty colors WILL damage them BTW. retinas fall off quite readily in some individuals :smoke:

 

[st.bot.32]

i used to do that when i was like a little kid for fun.. rub my eyes and see cool spinning imagery.

i stopped.. for the above reason

 

[FluidDruid]

How People Project Disorders

You keep using the term Project, in what context are you using this. I cannot understand your posts half the time.

 

[GOD]

This isnt what i mean but if you read it you might understand me .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I`m talking about people having thoughts and instead of taking responsibility for them they project them on other people . When we talk about things many people get of track , start argueing about things i havent said and dont think and end up arguing with themselves = projecting their confusion on me . Or they project a non existant dissorder on themselves . Have a symptom , look at web shit , find a disssorder and project it on themselves .

 

[Appel]

For example, people who are concerned about YOUR drug use because THEY are afraid of this unknown or jealous of your experiences. They are projecting their feelings/fear onto you.

It gets annoying when they try to change you, based on their insecurities that they project onto you.

 

[JohnDoe_2012]

I've noticed when I'm in a heavy shroom trip and it is going well I will lie with my arm wresting across my eyes touching them. This both helps provide complete darkness in case it's day time outside and turning out the lights alone doesn't do it, it also seems to help create a more solid 'canvas' for the hallucinations. It's also not just the kind of low-level images you see while on cannabis or just pressing on your eyes typically, at times they can be as vivid as a dream.

 

[????????]

rubbing your eyes to see pretty colors WILL damage them BTW

is this true? when you say retinas fall off it sounds like something my mom would say. Why the damage? it happens even if one were to do it gently? where are the casualties?

I used to smoke and lie somewhere dark and silent and the imagery was very impressive. Richer and more complex that my wildest expectations. I can't do it justice when I try to imagine it sober. Druid, did you get the kaleidoscopic thingies? I'm referring to this:

I remember this shape particularly because of the amazing crispness it had when I saw it. It was very similar to the above pic (I wasn't rubbing my eyelids btw) It's more or less the fractals and symmetric stuff people've been seeing and painting everywhere since time immemorial, isn't it?

I still wonder how the brain is able to so such feats. These things have a kind of "life" of their own and sometimes I even felt they were openly mocking me and showing me their craftiness. Reminds me of McKenna's elves. I attribute them to the good old "unconscious" and their substrate must be that of dreams. The quotes are there because I feel it's a misnomer, it should be supraconscious or something, certainly not "un-" or "sub-". Our true consciousness, the "me" or ego, is but a percentage of all that's going on at any given time in the brain, it's far from being an all-controlling entity.

I stopped because however beautiful, isn't it all at the end still maya? After a while it felt like dreaming and I could feel myself falling asleep and... what's the use of getting myself high and then go to sleep? I guess it's the same reason why I never really got into lucid dreaming. It seems funny when you think about it, training yourself to live fantasies inside your head, instead of accomplishing them outside.

 

[druglessdouglas]

rubbing the eyes a bit wont hurt, but increasing the internal pressure and changeing their shape... they are a bit delecate

 

[????????]

I'm gonna rub 'em tonight just for the hell of it