any experiences on psychonauting going wrong?

[CyberMonkey]

Hello everybody! First of all, I'm new here so I'm sorry if a thread like this might already exist or of the subject doesn't fit on this (sub)board.
I don't have experience with "real" psychonautic stuff like LSD or mushrooms, only with alcohol (like everybody...) and a little with cannabis (like *almost* everybody ). However, I'm very interested in expanding my experience and knowledge of myself and my way of thought so I'm definitely interested.
I read everywhere that stuff like LSD or DMT or mushrooms aren't addictive, however they might worsen or "awaken" psychological problems and seriously destabilize a personality.
Does anyone has experience with this type of events, on him/herself or on other people? People getting a mental breakthrough, maybe resorting to other, more addictive drugs?
Maybe it might be interesting to share some experiences on this matter, or what do you think?

 

[gammagoblin]

Well, after my first few encounters with LSD I became so enthousiastic about it that I started using it every weekend for about a month. After a month I quit because I noticed I was ruining my brain with it, and I didn't get any more revelations or insights where I started using it for. But I then noticed that even when sober, I was still tripping a little. I still had visuals, I was oversensitive to about everything and my ego was gone.

This state lasted about two month's and I then realized I had to do something about it in order to make it stop. I started meditating a lot and decided to fast for a few days and than take a mushroom trip combined with a MAOi. After this I slowly started recovering, a month after this I took another huge dose of mushrooms which profoundly affected me and after this experience I had found myself back.

Nowadays (about 5 month's after the heavy LSD (ab)use) I still suffer a little from HPPD, but accept for this I'm completely myself again accept now I know myself a lot better, and if I knew beforehand how the LSD would affect me, I still think I would have done it because it had shown me so much great insights about me and the world that it was definitely worth the negative effects.

 

[toadlicker]

10 years ago i ate lsd almost on a daily basis. i have no lasting effects and never did. i only ever had two break throughs one of which was a little scary but that was my own fault.
i've only had one bad trip with mushrooms but i also combined them with very strong lsd.
lsd is one of the safest drugs a person can do. most "lasting effects" of lsd are urban legend.

 

[Gratefully_dead]

right off let me say i havnt done any of the "harder" drugs i want to try acid but from my experience with shrooms, weed, morning glory, san pedro, salvia and dagga i have not yet encountered a really bad trip or any health related problems the worst trip ive had was when i was on morning glory (I totally underestimated it when coupled with grass) and I went to my girlfriends house where i had to hide the affects of a very mushroom-like trip from her and her parents of course that was just due to the environment the trip itself was excellent lol I think everyone should try psychadelics of some kind be it just weed or be it lsd and I welcome you Cybermonkey to the underworld of drugs and having extraordinary experiences

 

[scotmark]

Ive tripped on just about anything possible, LSD,Shrooms, morning glosry,mescaline, large amounts of e and mdma.

One day a friend recommended i try 2C-I and gave me the web page it could be bought from(which since has sadly closed)

Well i got 100mg and not having accurate scales and my info on doage was limited to what he said plus erowid, i had a little dabble relaxed on the couch with my girlfriend and watched a dvd. After about 45mins i didnt notice any effects so i rubbed a little more on my gums, smoked a joint sat back and waited. After anothe 30 mins, i started noticing some visuals but they werent that strong and i felt like i was coming up on e. After another 30 mins i thought id reached the plateau and being greedy licked my finger, dipped it in the bag and rubbed more into my gums. after that it all gets hazy as i went on a trip of about 3 hours, i dont remember much but my girlfriend told me i was talking to myself, wandering around our apartment staring at things.

Well the next day i looked at how much was left and reckon i must have had 80mg, i still had some effects lasting for most of the day. they werent unpleasant and made work a little more intresting. What i didnt like were the comedown effects, made me really tired with passing naseua.

Still it didnt stop me from getting more but i treated it with more respect though i did try it by smoking some and also snorting it. By smoking it i found the effects were quicker but by snorting it they were more intense.

My advice is if you dont know what your trying have some respect for it and always have a sitter. My experience wasnt pleasant although it could have been a lot worse if i had panicked but as id tripped before i knew what to expect.

I havent had any lasting effects from using hallucinogens that im aware of.

Still go easy try shrooms first not lsd or any synthetic stuff just to get a feel for the experience.
8)

 

[maxfreakout]

I did Syrian Rue and shrooms once and got really fucked up off it, i was in a state of poor mental health (basically i was an anxious wreck) for about 4 months afterwards, it was very difficult and for a long time i thiught i had permanently damaged myself. However it's been 4 years since then and i look back on it as being the single most rewarding experience of my life

so it's a double edged sword really

 

[tryptophanatic]

Set and setting are obviously important when commencing a trip but even in the best setting there are still chances of having a scary trip. You have to be prepared for dealing with all of the psychological negativity you have accumulated. Many people who experience a bad trip do so as they are not ready to deal with there psychological issues. It also depends on what your intentions for the trip are. If you are just wanting to get high and see crazy visuals and feel good that is fine but you got to be prepared to deal with your buried psychological issues. If you really want to get to the core issues that you are struggling with in your life, as we all have them, and want to deal with that then psychedelics are a great tool. I feel that there is a distinction between the plant entheogens and synthetic. In my opinion there are actual spirits or whatever you want to call them within the plants that are associated with that particular plant. They will try to teach you things if you pay attention. With the synthetics you can still access higher and subconscious realms but you are learning from yourself or other entities but they are not neccessarily the specific entities that are associated with certain plants. I experienced and extremely scary trip that brought up all the negative things I have ever done possibly even in past lives and these energies were manifested in my consciousness as outside entities and they psychically attacked me. It was the scariest and most intense experience and truly a battle for my life! However it helped me in many ways and although frightening and quite stressfull it was beneficial. The shadow is scary to deal with but holds many great lessons if you can handle it. Like most other trippers I have also experienced the unified consciousness of universal love and that experience far outweighs the few negative possibilities. I highly reccomend a book to you called "Mushroom Wisdom" by Martin Ball PhD. It is a 180 page book that will answer many questions for you and give you great advice for creating your own sacred space and mindset to get the most out of trips. READ IT! And Welcome to the ancient and new frontier.

 

[soknardalr]

I've only ever had one experience which made me uncomfortable and that was when I decided to blend Cannabis with Salvia. I smoked a joint of Cannabis followed by a large dose of x10 Salvia extract. I put my blindfold on as normal and dropped into a deep unconscious state for about an hour and began to have a lucid dream. My dream took me to a completely different dimension, a backwards world where nothing made sense to me and while I was aware of the conscious world and my body laying there, I couldn't control it. When I came around finally I thought enough time had elapsed for the effects to have worn off and tried to leave my room. Once outside of my room, I realised I was still experiencing the effects of the Salvia and ended up lost in my hallway. My step mother found me standing in the hallway about ten minutes later rambling on about the textures and hundreds of pin holes in the wall's surface.
It wasn't a bad experience as such and I didn't do anything irrational or erratic, but it just unsettled me a little and I was annoyed with myself that I'd decided to experiment in such a manner. I haven't smoked Salvia since.