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An hell of a time on acid!

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Wow, that was out of my mind!!! Yesterday around 3 a clock i started chewing on a lsd blotter. Last time i did a half and the trip was really interesting, so now i thought i had the balls to take just one whole blotter(i am really sensitive to all the psychedelics, in a which i do believe a extreme way.)

But here's the problem, i wasn't really in the right mood, but because i had planned this trip, i thought shit happens. Well that was a decision that was not so wise, because already after a small time i already tripped just as hard as the last time with half a blotter. I thought, he calm down and fast your sea belts. Deep inside my head i started so see the most weird images i could ever imagine. The music played an important roll on my the trip, just like it did happen on my first trip on acid. Also everything i heard was much louder then it would be normally. Practically i could hear the cracks in the walls, and could taste the air and feel the vibes of the playing music in the background. On that moment i thought, he i am doing very well on the acid and having a great time. Every song that played on the background, brought a whole new trip. It was really amazing to see all these strange images in my head. But then a song of infected mushroom started playing, the song has some spooky effects in the background. First i started to feel myself a little unsure, but hey, i was doing a great time, so i just skipped the song and tried to go on with the trip. I felt still comfortable, but i felt a slightly soft mood change which wasn't comfortable at all. So i already understood that it would be a hell of time and i had not even reached the peak yet. I was just tripping for only one hour and i already started to feel negative. I could not recognise the songs anymore and everything was to different.

And before i knew everything started to go really wrong. I could not trust my self anymore and where afraid that i would do something which i would regret. This made me really scared, so i sad there on the couch. Then one of my dogs was looking at me, as he had seen a ghost. And then the other dog, came to me for some attention, which i where on that moment enable to give him. So i stood up, and i decided to go in bed. But when i where in my bed, i felt even more terrible. Because i really did not know what to do, i decided to take a shower. Which was a good decision. Somehow i felt save in there, but still i had this feeling that i would die. finally I realised that it would be probably a part of the process. Then i sad down in the shower, and and surrendered myself to it. From of that moment i didn't knew who i where, where i where and what i had to do to make everything normal again. I think i have sad there for hours :P

When i finally had the feeling to move on again. I walked back downstare and decided to change the music style, because i noticed that it had much influence on my trip. I listened to some music which made me more comfortable with the situation i was in. I really where fucked up confused, but then i realised i had to trust myself a little more. It's something i not always do as much as i would like. After 8 hours or so, i got back the control of my mind. It made me really happy that i survived to peak, and could at least think a little bit. But then the doorbell did ring :P I thought that maybe the music was to loud, and that the neighbour was on the door. So that made me open the door. When i opened the door it seemed to be a someone from my girlfriends work. Who wanted to show his new car! I still didn't know how to react, so i quickly looked, told him it was a nice car. I don't know if he could see that i where tripping balls, but i am sure that the communication did not went as it normally would be ;) But hey, i survived the trip and so it didn't bother me.

It's now 24 hours ago that i came down from that trip. But still it's hard to make a normal report from it. It was full of terrible pain and panic. I am sure about one thing, the next time i am going to make a good playlist with music that does only have positive vibes. But for the next two month's i think i learned enough :D
 
Yeah I always thought LSD is not something you want to do alone, since it's not "whole" in spirituality, there is many gaps and you can loose yourself, but when you have a friend tripping with you you can ask him who you are and then each laugh at himself and the situation because you just looped 10 times and said the exact same thing 10 times.

When alone laughing is harder, because you see how weak you are, it just humbles you, a little too much, you're lucky you didn't lock up in anxiety or something !

I suggest indian and organic music during psychedelics, it just grounds you so much more, techno tends to sound too mechanic for me and makes me freak out !

Happy to know you're still amongst us ! Try shrooms next time if you want to trip alone...
 
Yeah I always thought LSD is not something you want to do alone, since it's not "whole" in spirituality, there is many gaps and you can loose yourself, but when you have a friend tripping with you you can ask him who you are and then each laugh at himself and the situation because you just looped 10 times and said the exact same thing 10 times.

Exactly it wasn't spiritual at all. It was just a psychological horror trip. To be honest i really thought about this while i where just starting to trip. I really felt the need to talk to someone.

When alone laughing is harder, because you see how weak you are, it just humbles you, a little too much, you're lucky you didn't lock up in anxiety or something !

I think that's the problem, when tripping on acid you can see so clearly how weak and fragile your are. It becomes almost a really dangerous game to play with. I also had the feeling i need more space, like a large wood and a sobber sitter. And of course some sunhine :P

Happy to know you're still amongst us ! Try shrooms next time if you want to trip alone...

Thanx! Hehe, because i had many experiences on shrooms on my own. I thought i could handle the acid also. A lot people talk about it, as if it is just a ride. But it can make it much more difficult. So yeah, next time i will make some good mushroom tea ;)
 
To me, acid is history and the future, while shrooms are the thought of the day. With shrooms, I remain earthy and deep elaborated evaluations about myself, others and our environment are making up the main part of my trip. As well as confronting reflections. Shrooms are excellent guardians to teach me about what to do, what to choose, and where to go, for the next season. (2/3 months)

It may be just as easily vice versa as I have seen by other individuals.

Both substances have their unique character. There's definitely a distinguishing in people when it comes down to which one of the two comforts them more. Subjectively, acid comforts me more and made me aware of 'the big orientation' and my nihil existance within that picture.

Anyway, :heart: :heart: You made it through purely by your very own self. Keep in mind that acid is a mild stimulant as well. In greater dosages, it's going to play an energetic role in your trip, for the better or the worse.
 
I had very spiritual experiences on LSD, especially on my own, melting together with the universe on two blotters in silent darkness is *bliss*.

That being said, the first few times I did it, LSD was indeed more psychological, albeit in a good way in my case. I learned a lot about how I came to be the person that I am today.

mysticwarrior, where do you think the horror came from? what were you thinking of? why did you interpret the experience as 'bad'? how did you get through? was there some kind of anchor that enabled you to keep in touch with your core? did you recognize some of your own ingrained habits in the development of the trip?
 
@mysticwarrior
Thanks for sharing your experience! Why did you want to take acid? Just curiosity or...?

As I probably have taken more than 100 acid trips and ‘guided’ friends on their first trips, I understand your experience to a certain level, because I don’t know you as a person. You probably need a couple of more days to come down from your experience, as it sometimes really can overwhelm people. Just give it some time, to give it a place in yourself.

You are probably a little scared to take a next ‘full’ acid trip, but if you do; have a good reason to do so. Maybe you want to find out, where your ‘hell’ experience came from? Your environment and music has a strong influence on your trip, make sure you also take care of this next time. In my opinion, a sitter can only help you at moments you need so, if they understand the working of acid, otherwise they will make it worse in most cases. Personally, I prefer to take acid alone (in general it depends on the person), but also did it many times at parties or at home with friends. Most of us, sooner or later will have a ‘bad’ experience on acid. But face it and don’t run away from it, as it all comes from within.

Racing thoughts are not uncommon during an acid trip. My advice will be to stop thinking with your mind and start to deal with your heart. Anytime a thought will come up, BLOCK it! What is your deepest fear? Just face it!!

Take care!
 
Wow mystic, what a trip! :( I had practically all of my acid trips by myself, and none of them have been difficult, and it has always given me very 'spiritual' feelings and insights. Reading about your bad trip, it's difficult to see it separate from the tension between you and your girlfriend, especially because she doesn't join you on your journeys (of which there were many in recent months) and thus can't support or calm you when you're having a bad trip, or listen to your adventures and insights with interest and understanding.
 
It's been submitted some people have an Alcohol gene... some people might have a LSD gene :lol:

I for one have an anti-salvia gene, because it takes me at least .2 of 40X to get to the fourth dimention :cry: thats alot of smoke, yuck.

Maybe it was physiological like others said, perhaps you'd have had a super good trip having ingested say 4 grams of kava kava and a poppy tea prior to the experience. (inner root bark only, outer root bark is toxic)

I always found LSD to be somehow spiritual, but nothing compared to some good amanitas or morning glories. It feels kind of empty to me once you've gone past the initial realisations it seems to loop...
 
Forkbender a dit:
I had very spiritual experiences on LSD, especially on my own, melting together with the universe on two blotters in silent darkness is *bliss*.

This exactly sums up my relation with acid. It more or is less is guaranteed an heavenly and spiritual journey throughout the entire duration.

But I have seen reactions in individuals in contrast with mine during a sober setting. But wasn't too much aware of what they had on their minds. And they remained reserved about the natural state of their inner life before the experience had begun, and the days after.
 
Forkbender a dit:
mysticwarrior, where do you think the horror came from? what were you thinking of? why did you interpret the experience as 'bad'? how did you get through? was there some kind of anchor that enabled you to keep in touch with your core? did you recognize some of your own ingrained habits in the development of the trip?

I don't really know where the horror came from. There can be more reasons, but i didn't thought about these problems while i was tripping. The horror started when there was a strange vibe in the music which i was listening. Another reason which i believe was one of the reasons, is that i was a little surprised about the experience that was brought on by the acid. I really didn't expect it would be such a hard experience. I interpreted the trip as bad, because i was really lost it was undiscrible. I felt a terrible panic, lucky enough i didn't do stupid things. And yeah, i did recognise some ingrained habits. I found out, that sometimes i am really to hard yself, and it became clear to me that this was not needed. I said to myself that i had love myself a little more.

redhawk a dit:
You probably need a couple of more days to come down from your experience, as it sometimes really can overwhelm people. Just give it some time, to give it a place in yourself.

I think your right, today i had a really emotional day. Mainly because somethings did happen the day after the trip, but i am more emotional then i normally would be.

redhawk a dit:
You are probably a little scared to take a next ‘full’ acid trip, but if you do; have a good reason to do so. Maybe you want to find out, where your ‘hell’ experience came from? Your environment and music has a strong influence on your trip, make sure you also take care of this next time. In my opinion, a sitter can only help you at moments you need so, if they understand the working of acid, otherwise they will make it worse in most cases. Personally, I prefer to take acid alone (in general it depends on the person), but also did it many times at parties or at home with friends. Most of us, sooner or later will have a ‘bad’ experience on acid. But face it and don’t run away from it, as it all comes from within.

I am scared to do it a next time, but i will try it again. I really want to find out what went wrong, but the next time i really need a sitter. If i had one, 2 days back, i think it would have saved my ass. But like you said, i won't run away! ;)

CaduceusMercurius a dit:
Wow mystic, what a trip! Sad I had practically all of my acid trips by myself, and none of them have been difficult, and it has always given me very 'spiritual' feelings and insights. Reading about your bad trip, it's difficult to see it separate from the tension between you and your girlfriend, especially because she doesn't join you on your journeys (of which there were many in recent months) and thus can't support or calm you when you're having a bad trip, or listen to your adventures and insights with interest and understanding.

Yeah this is clearly something i do miss at the moment. I did try to talk with here about it, but she won't really listening. The only reply i got, was that it i caused it myself. Of course she's right about that, but just like with other problems, i like to have someone listening to me. And maybe, because we lately have some problems in our relationship, this could be also one of the reasons why i had a bad trip. But like i said before, i didn't really thought about our problems while i was tripping.

Well, i will stay sober for one month or two. If i feel strong enough i am going to prepare my self for an ayahuasca ceremony. I hope it would help me with some issues that do ask to be solved.

Finally, i want to thank you all for reading my story. At least there are some people who are interested and helpful.

Greets,
Mysticwarrior.
 
why do you trip? why do you have this experiences for? i take it you do not do it to have something to do because you're bored or because you think you'll have a nice time. i can't say nor will i try to explain why you felt the way you did. but a psychedelic experience is not something to have to amuse ourselves in the way one smokes a joint. what you felt is normal and in fact has to be expected. now... why did you trip that day? if you did not do it to connect with your core and solve issues then what for?

a person who takes a blotter alone is going to feel horror. the horror of his/her own existence that dawns upon his/her consciousness. this is part of the package. the vulnerability that arises from it is what allows us to change. i have been recently thinking of opening a thread to ask you all why do you keep tripping. i do not want to take lsd again. i do not write this as an ultimatum but it's just the way i feel right now. i feel balanced and am quite content with how i go about things. i dare to say i'm happy. i do not say i don't want to trip because i don't enjoy it. but if i want to alter my awareness and have a good time i can have a joint. i like to think that tripping is reserved to important stuff. a ritual to have when one has lost the north. a procedure to fix the mind, resolve issues, work on stuff.

i don't think people should eat half a blotter. i think they should eat 2 or 3 and blast themselves. yes, things will get scary but again, why do you trip? i think we are all guilty of toying with lsd. i don't think it should be regarded as a toy. more like a tool to get things done.

if you want to spend a nice evening delighting in music and stuff do MDMA and smoke some weed. if you want to transcend ordinary wakefulness and be a better person take a trip, relax, wait and then ask the questions. don't tease the cold river by touching it with your toes. jump head first and get your ass soaked. i feel i have gotten answers to my questions. isn't this why we trip? to get answers?

mystic this is not just aimed at you, don't think i'm attacking you! is just that after reading about your trip i remembered how i feel and these things have been in my head for weeks now and i wanted to get it out of my chest... i think you, mystic, and all forum members, should stop doing psychedelics or even better wait for an appropriate time and then double your dose and have the trip. i felt i had mine and i feel i've been toying around since then. so i won't anymore. i feel good now and balanced and i have learned a lot from lsd. but now it's time to work on things with the new understanding that i've gained.

now, to avoid giving the impression that i consider myself superior to you: i do not. all i'm saying is that there should be a reason for taking these substances. and good reasons too, anchored in our everyday life. in concrete stuff, goals. we run the risk of becoming enamored with these experiences and entertaining ourselves with the thought of visiting fantasy realms and feeling like gods.

stop playing around.
 
Well said !

The most I went is doing the equivalent of 2-3 good quality blotters and a full third plateau dose fo DXM in my youth.

It's not only hellish, you actually think during the trip that you will never come back to normal awareness, but I did it a few times, I think once you get past the initial realisation, there is nothing to gain from it anymore it just makes you remember. I want to stress that it isn't pleasant at all, you're not laughing at all ; you're stirring thoughts and forging them with a plastic hammer and a psychedelic anvil.

If I did it again it would be to remember how it felt, not to entertain myself.

And I don't even think it's something that can be attained only with psychedelics, the real natural visionary experience dosen't require such high doses to find realisations, you can go a little at a time, even if it's really fast compared to what the previous generations were used to. LSD is indeed not a toy !

And don't take more than you can chew I would add ! (edit : Don't take that LITERALLY for LSD... ROFL)
 
100-200 µg changes a lot, 400-500 µg changes nothing.
 
Glad you survived your trip, as others have mentioned its more fun/safe to trip with a friend, human contact kinda brings you back to reality in a way, communication prevents you from getting too introspecttive, i had my first entirely positive and very strong acid trip on NYE well a candyflip, and the music does play a huge part in your mood...

anyway, give it some time to let your mind rest and next time make sure you're 100% sure you want to trip, no doubts... :wink:
 
Ahuaeynjxs a dit:
I suggest indian and organic music during psychedelics, it just grounds you so much more, techno tends to sound too mechanic for me and makes me freak out!

Indian is sooooooooooo pleasing.

Makes me feel like I'm flying in the planes, or the deserts of america, into the purple sky, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i love it :P :P :D :cry:
 
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