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Ok i have a horrible situation and am not sure what to do.

As of right now im 15 but 2 years ago i started smoking marijuana and i eventualy started smokeing every day. Needless to say 2 years of heavy marijuana use kinda 'fried' my brain a bit, if not then im just slow, but ether way im not ashamed of it.

So heres my situation. My mom is completly against drugs and breaking the law ect... [Altho she dose know about my hacking and whatnot]. So after i got caught a few times i eventually got put in rehab and started going to narcotics anonymus. So i got clean for a summer and then i found psycedelics... i fell in love, the way i look at things now is just so much more positive. I also adopted shaminism as my religion, but my mom is a hardcore christian.

I deeply want to 'go public' with my new way of life but as im sure all of you know, lay people are anything but acceptive to 'drugies'... Oh a little edit on my being slow, im accutally extreamly smart but i have bad spelling and gramer and if i want to tell someone why i do what i do i cant put it all into words. So this makes me seem like a dumb druggie. I just want to share what i so deeply love with someone... anyone, i just cant i just dont know how. If i try to tell mom shell think im relapsing and send me back to rehab [which was horrible by the way]. But what im getting to is how the hell do i tell people that im not a drug addict, but indeed a psychonaut who is on a quest to explore his own conusousness and its outerlimits just as he dose with computers theres just so much to learn about them so i learn about them, in my spare time i like to see how things work thats just what im essentally doing with my counsousness. Thats just not how they view it, they see only the drugs, and that you get extremly 'intoxicated'. Any pointers?
 
Welcome mate, sounds like a situation many of us have been in at some point or another; trapped within our own home and mind from the insidious and sadistic enforcement of power that infects 'modern society'.

I myself have had extreme difficulty in professing my extensive knowledge of and love for psychedelics and the infinite wealth of concepts that accompanies their use to those unwilling to accept anything contrary to their own closed perception.
My parents, although not as seemingly controlling and narrow as your mother as to place me against my will into rehabilitation, have found it difficult to accept my broadened views on the values and nature of the universe; both in physical and metaphysical reality. Yet they are willing to respect my judgement to some degree.

This my friend is only the construct of the perceived absolutism and controlled sterility of ‘western’ culture, coupled with the regulatory mechanisms of censorship, propaganda and a constant desire for power possessed by the selfish members of the bourgeoisie and filtered down to the lowest level with corrupted education.
Those who perceive the dollar and the dogma of religion as the only true forces in this world will never accept any other.

Being a Christian only intensifies this need for control. If you are delving into realms of perception and understanding outside the accepted ‘laws’ of the majority, you are instantly regressed and outcast. Once ingrained to an extent where reality seems contrived, simple and absolute then there is no way that they will even contemplate looking at, let alone accepting these open, free thinking and critically minded people which dispute their views.
Unfortunately there is a massive contingent of abusers of substances who utilise these sacred means of expansion as both an escape from this and as a pleasure mechanism to hide their pain, whilst not possessing the inquisitive nature to find out how these substances operate, their true nature and the best methods of their consumption; nor a bigger concept of reality.
It just becomes a meaningless high to which the governments and establishments of this world regulate under a mountain of misinformation.
Divide and conquer once more.

‘Drugs’, including psychedelics, are inane substances; they are mere guides which the individual can utilise to experience and contemplate divine wisdom, and experience a different facet of perception before that ultimate shift in death. Yet as I stated before, the individual can either chose to use the substance or to abuse it; which is based on their knowledge, wisdom and willingness to increase these aspects of their life for the better.
Yet of course, some substances are more destructive than others (meth, coke, heroin etcetera), just as there are destructive people; it is the individuals ignorance and persistence with these which offset the perception of psychoactive substances as the harbingers of death within modern culture.

My advice would be to attempt to explain and discuss the wealth of information about both the substances themselves and the eternal nature of the true universe to which you are willing to explore and understand in a non constrictive way; based off your own experience, and the wealth of experience of those around you. Building a bigger picture rather than taking singular perspective as an end point to exploration.

This will be a hurdle for you, particularly if your mother is as closed and enforcing as you make her out to be; which in this case I would suggest hiding your views toward her until a time which you can find likeminded people who are willing to listen, comprehend and share this journey into eternity with you in a loving way.

Besides, aren’t your parents meant to love unconditionally; especially when their child is open, unafraid and willing to explore in a constructive, non destructive, way? Should not they respect your right to question established belief and concepts built around you to better your understanding and wellbeing? If your mother rejects all of these factors of what life and love pertains then she is in no position to tell you what to believe or to consume. That is not freedom; that is not life. It’s living a lie which cuts at your mind on a daily basis and turns you into a shell. Consuming regulation blindly.

I can’t tell you exactly what you should do other than continue to seek truth, to find reality for yourself. It’s the experience of one tiny fraction in the infinity of entirety that you can have a part in shaping the understanding for yourself and of others for generations to come.

“When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace
 
Hello,

I am 17 years old. I am in a similar situation as you. Except my father knows about my psychedelic use, and my mother does not. My dad is not against psychedelic use, but my mom is. I have a very big urge to tell my mother; I feel as if i'm hiding a beautiful part of my life from her. I just don't know how to approach her and how to tell her. I think the best optional would to come prepared with knowledge about these sacred substances. So maybe if you can ask her to just listen you can show her that these aren't harmful substances. And if she still refuses to listen, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
Besides, aren’t your parents meant to love unconditionally; especially when their child is open, unafraid and willing to explore in a constructive, non destructive, way? Should not they respect your right to question established belief and concepts built around you to better your understanding and wellbeing? If your mother rejects all of these factors of what life and love pertains then she is in no position to tell you what to believe or to consume. That is not freedom; that is not life. It’s living a lie which cuts at your mind on a daily basis and turns you into a shell. Consuming regulation blindly.

well put, but on a more pragmatic level this is not going to help the guy. Parents love their children, and that is very reason that his mom sent him to rehab. She just thought is was the right thing to do. That does not mean is was the right thing for him, but that's a whole different question.

My advice: use you brainpower to get a diploma as fast as you can and move to your own place. Meanwhile, keep your ideas largely to youself, as I gather you're in no position to negotiate. Also, this whole mess causes a lot of stress, not only for you but also for your parents.

maybe you could agree to not agree with her world view :)

On a vfew occasions I conluded a conversation that way with riligous people.

(edit: sp)
 
Well, i can tell you get a diploma. It's really important in this society and it will be even more important when you (and me too) are adults. (yeah i've read there will be a Stock market crash in the USA sooon). Although school is important i don't think it's wrong to discover and go beyond the boundaries your parents tell you. But only when you're doing fine at school

All i can say is please keep your interests to yourself, don't tell others about it, they will think you're an addict or stoner, because most of other teenagers around our age aren't interested in these things, just because they aren't Conscious of themselfs. My mother is against any form of drugs she tells me, altough she smokes, she drinks and in her young years she used almost everything. Kinda hypocrite i think.

Also, you said you smoked pot every day, why was it? Can you tell me that?
 
I also adopted shaminism as my religion, but my mom is a hardcore christian.

Get her to read "the Jesus Mysteries" and watch the material at: http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/main/ which very clearly shows (to me at least ;)):

"Original Christianity was a pagan religion based on the use of hallucinogens"

This seems to bizarre for words, as it seemed to me a few years ago but this research is really adding up and leave little if no, room for doubt.

Love/Peace
HC

PS picture is 13th century fresco (could be 14th)

;)
 
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Also, you said you smoked pot every day, why was it? Can you tell me that?

I dont know, i think that i eventually just got into the habbit of it [my friend grew a nice amount and we just were always smoking it] but now i smoke on average 3 times a week sometimes less sometimes more
 
HeartCore thanks for the link and book refrence ill deffinatly check it out [it is a book right?] and that pic is sweet lol
 
Study . Read books . Dont make your experience by burning your fingers please . Look for everything you want to know in the net , or ask specific questions here . Dont use your body to do experaments without finding out what could happen first or you might fuck yourself badly and land in a psychiatric hospital , young peoples prison or mortuary . Wich is worse than rehab . Shamanism is not a religeon , its better to be taught about drug use and things like that by experienced people......remember the story about the saucerers aprentice ??? Find like minded people who have done the things you want to try and talk to them . BUT BE CAREFULL one cant trust everyone . Here is a good place to start . It would be better to find out a lot more about drugs before you freak your mom out . It is very possible that she has had drugs herself , most adults have , and that she is concerned that you are just jumping before looking if the pool has any water in it !!! That you dont try to run before you can walk . Moms usualy arent stupid , they just want the best for their ofspring .

Wow , feel honoured ! You are very lucky phalaris doesnt come out to play with us very often , but when he does he always has something to say that is worth listening to .
 
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