A few weeks without the grass

[Moinsquerien]

During the christmas break I had all the money and time of the world. Night after night I spent at the coffeeshop, it was pure delight. Weed, food, drinks, free internet, television and games, a toilet, comfortable couches - everything was at my disposal for hedonistic fulfillment. They always play very nice music there, it is often reggae music but they play all kinds of wonderful music which just blows your mind as soon as you get stoned. My whole vacation became one big and happy blur. But every time I smoked more, my need for pleasure fulfillment increased. I got a lot of munchies and as the days passed I smoked, I ate, I fell asleep, I smoked more, I ate more, I fell asleep again and so on. I forgot all about the magic feats that the herb meant for me once and became a zombie devouring everything that crossed my path. So I decided to quit the grass for fourty days. I've quit for over a week now and although it's surprising how dependant I've become, I really like it. I am coming to my senses and the first few days I even felt more high than the times I was stoned. I forgot all about the magic of life. Sometimes I feel a urge to smoke one, but I am confident I'm gonna keep my promise. It's not going to be that hard, it's probably going to seem like a very long time. But is it not strange that until the first time one's smoked, so the first 12-18 years of most stoners' life, the eternal soberness wasn't a problem, but now for a lot of people a week without the herbs is already a very long time? I myself have noticed a sincere mental addictiveness of weed. Are there other people here who, in the past, also took a long break without weed? I'd like to know how this went and how you experienced it. It's incredible what one can seem to have hidden from himself when he sobers up for the long term. Greetings

 

[Crimzen]

Ive been smoking pot almost non-stop since i was 13
lately ive been trying to get off it and ive been doing fairly well unless im around my stoner mates
i find i dont have as much will power as i thought i did, i cave without much resistance because i 'want' to get high

however i quit months ago (i didnt check the date but its been about 3-4 months all up) and since then ive only smoked about 5 times which for me is a big thing
just the other day i was having trouble sleeping and found myself wishing i had a stick of green to smoke just to be able to relax and fall asleep, then i was picturing myself smoking weed in my back yard listening to bliss n eso like i used to and just chillin and writing and drawing and thinking
it was like remembering the good times with old friends
and then i was really craving it worse and worse
until i fell asleep
next day i still kinda wanted to smoke but not so bad as at night

for me its been easier to quit because right before i did i was living with my cousins and we went through about 4 ounces of weed in quite a short amount of time
so i had my fill basically
plus i started getting terrible anxiety and paranoia and just bad feelings of all sorts
so that made it easier to stop as it took away all advantage of smoking

but now....its a bit harder

 

[Schwanke668]

I know this is almost entirely not the same but I can see similarites in your experiences and what I'm going through.

I only do legal stuff but because of my sensativity legal stuff almost always rocks my socks off in some way.

It also lasts for 2 or even 3 or 4 days as opposed to the usualy 6 hours or couple hours or whatever.

As such I got back into the smokeables legal style about what 2 weeks ago?

Started with salvia to the point of every night a little bit. Then some Blue Lotus.

I noticed about 3 days ago that I was STILL high after having been 'clean' for 3 days and thought, well this could be my wierdness of veil we keep talking about but I started to carefully analyze myself and realize there were 'problems' in this piece of my 'perma trip'.

For one thing I was making basic mistakes in things, forgetting things more, doing things that I didnt mean to do. Normally all that type of stuff is under control but like if 2% of the decisions I make in a day are idiotic they rose to like 10% easy.

So for two days I didnt drive cuz I was worried I might actually not be safe.

Ive been 'sober-ish' for about 2 days now BUT I have had an 'itch' to smoke this new legal bud I got. Its been like a craving. Like a 'comon comon i gotta try it, i gotta see what it does'. Even though it probably wont be anything special or mind blowing the simple fact that I am 'smoking something' that 'alters my mind' is turning me on.

So I understand 'addiction' to greater or lesser degree and I know I have an addictive personality. Thats what got me into trouble in college and what put on so much weight when I came home. Smoking cigs was the same way but God just took that a way for whatever reason. (As in I like to smoke becuase I enjoy it and I tried to START smoking and couldnt lol.)

But yeah you can get addicted I think to any aspect of anything really and I know from my past you get into a particular drug and 'love it' and you tend to need more and more and more because your mind (even if not chemically) gets 'used' to it. Its like: "Well yeah. Ive seen that table melt 100 times. I need to see half the room melt at once to really feel good." kind of thing.

I'm praying for people with addiction now including myself because loss of control is a horrible thing in any situation unless your give your control to someone you trust and generally thats not the case with chemicals/herbs/etc.

I try to give my control to God but sometimes you 'miss' and end up loosing control instead and thats just not fun. As it is I promised myself I wouldn smoke this new stuff until after a celebration tonight with my wife and its been itching me all day and keep being tempted to do it early. Maybe I shouldnt do it all? I dont know. But I am praying and maybe I will maybe I wont.

 

[itsscience]

G'day Moin, I've been off the weed for almost a week now (I was a daily user for many years) and I really feel fantastic, high on life I guess you could say but probably more likely that being sober is so new to me that I'm just high on a different feeling.

I often found that feeling of never being fully satisfied/wanting more when smoking the herb. It would generally lead to me smoking more and more and eating more and more but never feeling completely sated.

I posted a thread on this topic entitled "Stopping the Abuse" and there were some very encouraging posts in response.

Good luck with it.

 

[Moinsquerien]

I try to give my control to God but sometimes you 'miss' and end up loosing control instead and thats just not fun. As it is I promised myself I wouldn smoke this new stuff until after a celebration tonight with my wife and its been itching me all day and keep being tempted to do it early. Maybe I shouldnt do it all? I dont know. But I am praying and maybe I will maybe I wont.

If you cannot help looking forward to it so much, I recommend not doing it at all this day, because it will otherwise affect your attitude towards the celebration with your wife making it less special with you thinking about getting high all the time. Just wait for tommorrow at least, or otherwise you will probably fuel your addiction.
By the way, since Salvia has a negative tolerance as an effect, that may be the reason you keep getting so freaking high from it. Maybe you should cut its use down a little bit. You can do weed instead, but that, of course, isn't legal, but I think it has less overwelming effects that Salvia Divinorum.

I often found that feeling of never being fully satisfied/wanting more when smoking the herb. It would generally lead to me smoking more and more and eating more and more but never feeling completely sated.

That's exactly my problem and it's a pleasureful experience, but you are never statisfied and so it goes on and on.. and at a certain point its even starting to feel dark and unpleasant. But then I am so high, so in a streak of pleasure fulfillment and have done it so much already, I cannot stop. I just keep eating and smoking and I cannot help it, it's almost an automatism. At that point you're probably a bit addicted. I read your thread by the way, it's good to see you've managed to stay sober for a couple of days already.

 

[Schwanke668]

If you cannot help looking forward to it so much, I recommend not doing it at all this day, because it will otherwise affect your attitude towards the celebration with your wife making it less special with you thinking about getting high all the time. Just wait for tommorrow at least, or otherwise you will probably fuel your addiction.
By the way, since Salvia has a negative tolerance as an effect, that may be the reason you keep getting so freaking high from it. Maybe you should cut its use down a little bit. You can do weed instead, but that, of course, isn't legal, but I think it has less overwelming effects that Salvia Divinorum.

I actually switched to the Panama Bud the cheesy legal herbal high stuff that popped out years ago. I chose the one that was an actual plant even though I wasnt entirely sure what it did lol. It felt right to try that. I'll keep googling it to see if I get more info on it. Think I figured out what plant it was but lost the link lol. Somewhere in my history. Time to start diggin!

I stopped the salvia. Didnt realize it was negative tolerance. Does make sense then when I was getting spontanous insane highs. Salvia probably made me unstable.

I guess my biggest anoyance with all of this stuff is the fact that I have like an insanely LACK of knack to research. Even if I sit down and 'research' I miss most of the important stuff even when people suggest how to google. I end up finding out about the important stuff by accident or by asking questions and I tend to annoy people with asking questions so I try not to do it on everything.

Thanks for the random tip on the salvia. I'm going to keep researching and keep experimenting with the panama. Seems to have reduced my hunger which is nice and helped me get to sleep nice. Slept more today then I would have liked but I think that was more by choice then by the smoke, just the smoke helped me choose in that direction easier. I think if I focus I can get past that.