A few (many) newbies questions

[JimmyJohn]

Hi guys,

My only experiences with psychoactive drugs so far have been with LSD-ying/yang cartons if i remember well (a few times and each time a very enjoyable experience) and once with datura tea (a terrible and frightening crap, i got highly strung(?) for 4 days while visual distortions lasted for as long as a week. I for a while thought i would end up in an HP. Too strong a dose? Maybe. But i'd never recommend it to anybody.

My CV also includes smoking pot- almost daily- for close to 20 years. I have almost stopped now cause it seems i have reached a kind of threshold and most of the time i do it now , it most of the time leads me into a paranoid state of mind.
I also have been addicted to opiates (H and opium) for a few years and did C
free basing occasionally.
Fortunately, i have stopped this distructive behaviour almost a couple of years
ago.

But since then, i sometimes feel my liife being meaningless and often emotionally and spiritually empty.
That's why i am very eager to try some/many of the appealing mind opening
substances largely described in this great forum.

After this long and boring(?)ntro, i'll now try to get to the main point of my post:
- According to your experiences, what are the best substances i sould start
experimenting with? (most interresting, friendliest, less likely to be frightening...)
- What dosages should i start with?
- What method to use it. (orally? smoked? IM? IV?...)
- Under what environement (alone? in small private party? in night clubs?...)
- Any other useful recommendations you could come up with?

Sorry for this arduous post, but be assured that any help and even partial info
you could come up with would be greatly appreciated.
Thats in advance.

PS: I (wrongly?)posted in the synthetic section of the forum but i would as much or even more be glad to use natural substances
substances

 

[Brugmansia]

Shrooms, Cacti and Ayahuasca brews are your allies. And eventual MDMA. All orally. You should do it in a restrained environment, at home with 1 or 2 close friends. Or within the wide nature.

NOT in a Nightclub.

 

[JimmyJohn]

Dear Brugsmansia,

Your answer feels me with a lot of joy.
Your answer is the first i got.
You seem to be a great bunch of open minded people but i started to feel like i would need to make a lot of efforts to be accepted. I am probably very paranoid but i am now much more relaxed.

Just a couple more questions, if you dont mind answering them.
-There seem to be a lot of different types of shrooms. Are some better than others or are they all acceptable?
-What is the best supplier i should contact? (maybe you can PM it to me?)
-I'd love to try MDMA but dont have comfidence in the pills sold in the streets/raves.
-Do you know of people who were able to get hold of piperonale/isosafrole?
I have some chemical knowledge and run an import/export company.
I have found some suppliers in Asia (China-Taiwan). But i m afraid to order some.

 

[Forkbender]

Hey JimmyJohn!

Welcome to psychonaut. Hope you will find all the information you need, along with some great advice.

-There seem to be a lot of different types of shrooms. Are some better than others or are they all acceptable?

Any of the psilocybe family will be good enough. Most common is the Ps. Cubensis. Depending where you live (I don't recognize the flag!), there might even be mushrooms growing near your house. Oh wait, Marocco, I don't know about the situation there... Might be a bit dry?

-I'd love to try MDMA but dont have comfidence in the pills sold in the streets/raves.

Then wait until you meet someone you can trust. There are some big psytrance festivals in Marocco in the summer, you should be able to find something there. (Always ask the person you get it from if they have taken it themselves.)

 

[JimmyJohn]

Thanks for the warm welcome

... Might be a bit dry?.)

Weatherwise? not this year, we have a lot of rain.
Does it mean some can be found in the woods?

... There are some big psytrance festivals in Marocco in the summer

First time i hear about them. Obviously no publicity is made locally.
Do you know in which arean/towns they take place?

You know, except for weed, coke and some opiates, im quite isolated where
i live and there arent many people i can ask for advice.
But instead of asking questions that have already been asked many times , i'll be digging the forum carefully, it's full of useful info.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Welcome

You seem to be a great bunch of open minded people but i started to feel like i would need to make a lot of efforts to be accepted. I am probably very paranoid but i am now much more relaxed.

No man, you don't need to do a lot of efforts to be accepted, where just a great community

Weatherwise? not this year, we have a lot of rain.
Does it mean some can be found in the woods?

Since picking mushrooms can be really dangerous, it's better that you first read a lot about mushrooms. And ones you know how to identify the psilocybe mushrooms, then it's time to start hunting. I believe it is always important to first read about it the stuff your gonna ingest, and then decide if you want to take the risk.

Do you know in which arean/towns they take place?

I did a little search on google, and i found at least a youtube clip from a psytrance party that looks like it is in Marocco.

 

[mysticwarrior]

I'll have one question for you? How hard are the drug laws in Marocco?

 

[Forkbender]

First time i hear about them. Obviously no publicity is made locally.
Do you know in which arean/towns they take place?

Do a search on google for psytrance festival morocco and you will find plenty. Most of them are in the summer, though, and you probably wont find a lot of locals, as it is pretty expensive.

Mushrooms grow on green fields as well, but you need a lot of rain for them to grow. The active mushrooms are most likely from the psilocybe family, but I don't have the knowledge which species grow in your part of the world.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

But since then, i sometimes feel my liife being meaningless and often emotionally and spiritually empty.
That's why i am very eager to try some/many of the appealing mind opening
substances largely described in this great forum.

Hi JJ, welcome to the forum. I had a similar overwhelming experience with Datura (combined with acid) that lasted several days. Fortunately you didn't have a factual overdose.
Brugmansia already summed it up perfectly. And if you ever get in trouble with opiates again, remember Iboga is also there for you.
You mention you feel emotionally and spirituall empty. I think there's a lot of spiritual nourishment to be had from reading about and undergoing the psychedelic or entheogenic experience. There are psychedelic podcasts to listen to, lectures on mp3, interviews, videos, books, magazines... Much of the information involves psychology, pharmacology, shamanism, the origins of religion, ego-death, cosmic unity and mystical transmutation. Exciting material, with a solid scientific foundation. Depending on your own interests, there's a wealth of information online. Hang around and enjoy the ride.

 

[JimmyJohn]

I'll have one question for you? How hard are the drug laws in Marocco?

Oh, man, funny question this is.
I ve been living here for almost 7 years and i can't answer for sure.
Weird country that is, as there is no specific rule.
As a complete foreigner/stranger i would advise you to be very cautious,
you could be busted for as little as a couple of spliffs.

Now, for someone like me, who know the way around, have the right connections, know the mentality of the people(cops), in one word know how to get out of trouble, i'd say you could almost get away with murder.
For example:
-You can drive a car with a few grams of alcohol in your blood, be controled
by the authorities, but still get home unscathed.
Same after having smoked as much weed as you can handle.
-You can buy poppy heads (i used to buy a few kilos a week), sometimes opium, in some traditional grocery shops without problems.
As a general rule, i'd say that everything should be fine as long as you are
discreet(?!)/keep everything private.

But at the same time, a Moroccan friend of mine was sentenced to 6 years for
possessing less than 10 grams of coke for his personal(and some friends) use.
In no way was he was triying to sell any (for a profit).
was he set up? Did he serve as an example? I cant say.

I know i am not helping much there, but those are facts.
Everything here is arbitrary.

 

[JimmyJohn]

Do a search on google for psytrance festival morocco and you will find plenty. Most of them are in the summer, though

Thanks for the tip. I also searched google and i think i recognised where
most of those trances take place: on the beaches near Agadir.
On the downside, thats about 6 to 7 hours drive from where i live.
But i'll definitely keep an eye out for them next summer.
Really looking forward to it.

 

[JimmyJohn]

Brugmansia already summed it up perfectly. And if you ever get in trouble with opiates again, remember Iboga is also there for you.
You mention you feel emotionally and spirituall empty. I think there's a lot of spiritual nourishment to be had from reading about and undergoing the psychedelic or entheogenic experience. There are psychedelic podcasts to listen to, lectures on mp3, interviews, videos, books, magazines... Much of the information involves psychology, pharmacology, shamanism, the origins of religion, ego-death, cosmic unity and mystical transmutation. Exciting material, with a solid scientific foundation. Depending on your own interests, there's a wealth of information online. Hang around and enjoy the ride.

Hi my friend. Overwhelming experience with DATURA? Unforgettable, it cetainly
was. It's also something i don't regret i have done. But it's something i will
never experience again nor something i would recomend to anybody:

I spent a couple of days in the lift/elevator of the building i was
living in, thinking it was a hotel room. I slept there, ordered food, got
undressed and took imaginary baths/showers. And during this time, no one could
use the lift.
Most of my neighbours saw me, sometimes naked, but they acted cool
(not sure ot it though) or were very scared.
Lukily, none called the cops or the nearest HP.
And that's only a small part of the delirium i experienced.
I don't know what you call a factual dose (lethal?) but i'd really like to
know.

And well, reading is all very well,it can help, but to me it's like contemplating a
beautiful girl i am not allowed to touch.
I am really after experience. I am sure you understand.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Hi my friend. Overwhelming experience with DATURA? Unforgettable, it cetainly
was. It's also something i don't regret i have done. But it's something i will
never experience again nor something i would recomend to anybody:

I spent a couple of days in the lift/elevator of the building i was
living in, thinking it was a hotel room. I slept there, ordered food, got
undressed and took imaginary baths/showers. And during this time, no one could
use the lift.
Most of my neighbours saw me, sometimes naked, but they acted cool
(not sure ot it though) or were very scared.
Lukily, none called the cops or the nearest HP.
And that's only a small part of the delirium i experienced.
I don't know what you call a factual dose (lethal?) but i'd really like to
know.

I don't know much about Datura, but fucking hell, the story's that i read so now and then, all sounds really strange.....